Hej bröder och systrar!
Tänkte bara påminna om att det nu är dags att anmäla sig till årets Hallandslopp den 4 maj.
Det kostar 120 kr att cykla 36 km och 200 kr att cykla 100 km. Barn under 12 år i målsmans sällskap betalar halv avgift.
Är du intresserad av att cykla i grupp med några glada liggister kan du anmäla ditt intresse till mig senast onsdag 13 mars så tar vi detaljerna sedan. Vill du kolla mer och kanske anmäla dig själv direkt så går du in på www.hallandsloppet.com.
Ta dig i …
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Hör av dig, cyklist! :-D
/Borgis
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Jaha, så liggcyklister skulle kunna säga:
"Liggcyklister gör det"
(fniss)
Sverker
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Markusson [mailto:peter.markusson@telia.com]
> > Tvingar du upp mannen i sadeln?
> > Precis bakom pungen finns det ett litet nervcentra. Det
> sitter inte så bra
> > till för cyklister, konstaterar Berlingske Tidende. Enligt
> forskarna kan
> > lång tids cykling göra att nervcentrat inte mår så bra och
> det kan leda
> &…
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> > både bekymmer med potensen och till smärtor vid samlag.
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Hej kamrater liggister!
Hittat på HPVS diskussionsforum!
Trehjulingar
No score for this post October 18 2002, 9:01 PM
Har just flyttat till Stockholm...
Har en Leitra och en A.S. Engineering S-327.
Mekio Yoo
(no login)
217.208.221.176
Börja leta på Stockholms gator!
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Jan-Inge Ljungberg
webmaster(a)liggister.org
www.liggister.org
När vi ändå håller på att diskutera tekniska hjälpmedel till cyklar
undrar jag om det är någon som har någon erfarenhet av Schlumpf
mountaindrive? http://www.schlumpf.ch/language.html
Är det bara ett dyrare sätt att få samma sak som med två kedjedrev
fram? Tyvärr saknar ju min Hurricane fäste för främre växelförare så jag
får ändå köpa nytt frontrör mm. för att fördubbla antalet växlar. Så
prisskillnaden för min del kanske inte blir så stor i slutändan.
H.d.s.l.
Bernt
Gratis e-mail …
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Busenkelt!
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Hej
visserligen ingen liggcykelfråga men ändå.
En fälg med skada enligt nedan:
http://medlem.spray.se/tuben7/galleries/021026/
Vad kan orsaka en sådan skada tror ni?
Har jag kört på något som slagit sönder den
eller är det ett utmattningsproblem?
Den har gått ~400mil vara hälften på en trainer.
Det är fråga om drivsidan på ett bakhjul med 32
oreducerade ekrar.
Fälgen är specificerad som "Custom made for Bianchi
by FIR".
Mitt långsamma lowracerbygge går för övrigt framåt
steg för steg. Nu …
[View More]har jag kommit fram till ett
fungerande rullande chassi med sits och styrning klart.
Håller på med drivlinan och vet inte hur jag ska få
undan kedjan så den inte är i vägen för låren när
jag trampar.
http://medlem.spray.se/tuben7/cykel/lowracerbygge/index.htm
Mvh göran
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Hej allihop!
Vidarebefordrat brev:
> Från: Seinegård Marieanne <Marieanne.Seinegard(a)gp.se>
> Datum: tis 29 oktober 2002 kl 09.56.34 (Europe/Stockholm)
> Till: "'peter.markusson(a)telia.com'" <peter.markusson(a)telia.com>
> Ämne: Liggcykelargument
>
> Ett argument för liggcyklar hämtat från FL-Net:?
>
> Tvingar du upp mannen i sadeln?
> Precis bakom pungen finns det ett litet nervcentra. Det sitter inte så bra
> till för cyklister, konstaterar …
[View More]Berlingske Tidende. Enligt forskarna kan
> lång tids cykling göra att nervcentrat inte mår så bra och det kan leda
> till
> både bekymmer med potensen och till smärtor vid samlag. Fast forskarna är
> noga med att påpeka att cykling trots allt är bra för hälsan och att de
> positiva sakerna överväger nackdelen med potensen. (FL-Net)
>
> /Pöss
> __________________________________________________________
> Marieanne Seinegård, Webbutvecklare
> gp.se
> Göteborgs-Posten
> (...)
> ___________________________________________________________
>
>
Med vänlig hälsning,
Peter Markusson
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As always I cannot resist these technical discussions. Please forgive me...
Richard Wizins wrote:
> Maybe you are right Frederik, maybe not. I am personally not
> convinced that
> we can pedal very much more efficiently than most skilled
> cyclists already do.
This seems plausible. There is so much money in pro cycling that it would be
unlikely that the pro teams haven't already done what's within the reach of
scientific investigation to promote the highest possible …
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This, of couse, dosen't exclude new scientific discoveries...
> B. We have the issue of aerobic limitations. I.e. the
> cardiovascular system
> can not support an increase in power over any lenght of time
> even if we have
> the muscles to do it.
This I agree is the limiting factor for power output for most cycling
activities.
> energy. One could argue that it "only" prevents us from
> actually resting on
> the pedals on the upstroke and thereby counteracting the push
> on the other
> pedal. There is no telling how much power we actually add -
> it could well be
> nil.
Yes. The idea of Powercranks is to avoid spending some energy counteracting
youself, i.e. pushing 'backwards' with one leg and 'forwards' with the
other. Some energy would undeniably be saved if this can be avoided. It
might be very little, though, maybe too little to bother. And maybe the
action of actively lifting one leg instead of just letting it be lifted
causes involvement of additional muscles, resulting in a nil gain or a loss.
The human body is mechanically quite complicated (sic) and activating one
muscle here generally requires another muscle there to be counteracting, to
avoid the having body severely twisted...
> Bikedrive on the other hand does address the problem of
> erratic power. If
> we accept that we have an spike of force on the down stroke
> (or up stroke by
> the way) which is in part lost on trying to overcome the bike's (and
> rider's) moment of inertia (weight basically, in this case) we have an
> interesting opportunity here. By storing part of the access
> force (energy
> actually) in the spring instead of "burning" it on a
> fruitless attempt to
> jump the bike forward we can use that energy during the
> otherwise virtually
> powerless 12-6 o'clock part of the cycle. Thereby we would add no new
> energy, but we would waste less of what we have on fruitless short
> accelerations (F=m*a).
Well, storing energy as spring tension or as momentum would make no
difference, would it? Only the momentum storage is more light-weight, and
has no termal losses...
BTW, the energy provided by each pedal stroke is small compared to the
moving energy of the bike with rider, I think. I the energy of the moving
bike was plotted, the pulsing caused by pedalling would be a tiny riddle on
top of a comparatively steady line.
> - My first impression of the Powercranks was a bit flawed. Their main
> principle is preventing "resting" (pushing if you like) on
> the pedal in the
> up-stroke. Learning to use muscles to lift the foot will
> increase effective
> power (theoretically). If the power contribution in the
> up-stroke remains
> small (but not negative) it will do nothing to smooth the
> power curve. This might work, but I'm sceptical.
I am, too. But read the last lines below:
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Hey all,
I think that things have been discussed 'sufficiently' and it is now time to
wait for Dick to try and test Bikedrive.
So what follows is just some ideas and stuff I thought about when I followed
the past discussion... that might be interesting for you.
-Some guy named Harrison measured already in 1970 that the rowing motion can
give higher power than pedalling when the exercise lasts longer than 30
seconds, as in, not in sprints. This is when inertia of the rowing movement
is …
[View More]maintained with a flywheel (in a test laboratory) but a bike at speed
also has quite some inertia,...
The explanation that for the fact that no HPV rowing records exist (well,
actually, Derk Thijs had some records, for some time at least) is that the
motion takes more space and so ultimately, aerodynamics suffer more. Ah
yeah, also the power was greater with the butt fixed and the legs moving,
instead of the whole body moving. It is quite obvious that THAT causes a lot
of lost acceleration forces...
-I actually once road an alternative drive that really worked. It was on an
upright bike invented by a Belgian... inventor ;-) Anyway, he used a
connecting rod system attached to the cranks that lengthened the crank
length in the push position and drastically shortened it in the back stroke,
so no need for clipless. Not only this, he also succeeded in having the time
spent in the back stroke reduced and the time in the front stroke
enlargened. As a result, it was a piece of cake to pedal HUGE gears, like
65-11 on 26 at a speed of 30 km/h was comfy. It really worked; yet sadly,
his work is hardly acknowledged by anyone. Well, the construction is quite
elaborate and cannot be implemented on a recumbent since the whole rod
system would then point downward. Well, not in the form it was when I saw it
anyway. Still to bad no one picks it up in the upright world.
-If Bikedrive lessens peak force with 20%, it is because the resistance is
20% lower. Or because the local speed is about 20% higher (right?). OK, then
you spend 20% more time in the dead points, transferring stored energy and
inertia into the drive system. My question is, why not learn to pedal 20%
faster and skip the dead points +40% faster? That is the whole trick of the
500W of professional record power, it is done at 110rpm. The change of
inertia in the legs with a bikedrive system, +20% to -20%, 220 times per
minute, must be quiet interesting at those rpm... and so the story goes
on... forever ?? ;-) Just test it :-)
Regards, Frederik
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