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Re: [B7L] Review: Limbo
by Sally M 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Kathryn wrote: "So... what do *you* think?" I quite enjoyed Limbo, though it's not one of Sheila's best. There were, I thought, two main problems with it: a] I don't think it *entirely* escapes Mary-Suedom, since there is that (for *me* annoying) business the The Heroine having all the emotional answers (to Gauda Prime and Malodaar) and giving way too much advice to both Avon and later Vila. b] tied up with that is a tendency to 'show *and* tell' rather than 'show instead of tell' - Sheila is actually very good at showing the emotional interactions, but doesn't seem to trust herself as the writer to do so, she then has The Heroine spell them out again. Oh, and [c] with *my* Avon, crying wouldn't help one little bit, and he would never break down like that in front of anyone - he'd quite literally rather die. But that is my take on the character, and it's not *too* jarring. Re [b] I can understand the urge, however. With Blakes 7, the characters are both *extremely* buttoned up and extremely contradictory, and trying *to* simply show can get very very difficult (anyone else find themselves shouting at the monitor occasionally <g>?) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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RE: [B7L] Re: Novelisations - Bounty & PPt.
by Sally M 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Nico wrote: "I also noticed that Jill was very even-handed in her treatment of all the crew (indeed, she seems to like them all) and it would be nice if it stayed that way. I'm sure David wouldn't do this, but it would be a pity if anyone else doing a novelisation showed their prejudices for or against a character." Like I would, probably :-) While I quite like the idea, I have to say I prefer writing my own scribbles where I can edit out people I don't enjoy writing *and* write in my own style (which would involve describing Tarvin as having the face of a wary and none-too-bright guppy - and you don't want to know how I mentally describe Servalan or Travis 2 <g>) I think for me, and probably some others, the constraints of the episode, the whole episode and nothing but the episode would outweigh the fun ... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Review: The Way To Go Home
by Kathryn Andersen 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

(As usual, this review can also be found at my Net-fic reviews page <http://www.katspace.com/reviews/netfic>) The Way To Go Home (Blake's 7/Real Ghostbusters) by Sheila Paulson <venkie(a)aol.com> at <http://members.aol.com/Venkie/rgb/rgb.htm> This is a sequel to "Limbo" but doesn't work quite so well. It's more self-indulgent and doesn't have the same kind of unifying theme as the previous story. The characters are too insightful to be true, I just found that a bit too hard to believe. And I wasn't really comfortable with the advice to the B7 characters to be more "touchy-feely" because, well, they just aren't that kind of people (especially Avon!). On the other hand, there were moments of wit, cool wierdness, action and definitely a lot of niceness, so if you feel like some niceness, and want to find out what happened next, then you wouldn't be wasting your time. So... what do *you* think? Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richie: They don't still use the guillotine in France, do they? (Highlander: Prodigal Son) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <kat(a)katspace.com> <http://www.katspace.com> / \ | \_.--.*/ | GenFicCrit mailing list <http://www.katspace.com/gen_fic_crit/> v | -----------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

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Review: Limbo
by Kathryn Andersen 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

(As usual, this review can also be found at my Net-fic reviews page <http://www.katspace.com/reviews/netfic>) Limbo by Sheila Paulson <venkie(a)aol.com> at <http://members.aol.com/Venkie/rgb/rgb.htm> This story has a number of things in it which would send many a fan running for the delete key even before they'd tried to read the story. It has an original female protagonist. It's set in the 20th Century. It's told in first-person. And almost the only other Blake's 7 character in the story is Avon. But before you start screaming "Mary-Sue! Mary-Sue! Kill! Kill! Kill!" let me tell you the things which rescue this story from Mary-Sue-dom. Firstly, I doubt very much that Sheila Paulson is a widow living in Iowa. And the protagonist certainly isn't Mz. Perfect. But more importantly, this story works because of the thematic resonance set up between the protagonist and Avon, both being people who've shut out the world because of the pain of loss. Well, *I* think it works. And it's fun to see the reaction of Avon to things in the 20th Century. Some people may still find it too much of a wishlist of all the things one could say to Avon to try to make it right. But, hey, this is Sheila Paulson! Happy endings are her middle name. So... what do *you* think? Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Avon: Leave him alone in future. Tarrant: Or? Avon: Do you want me to threaten you? Tarrant: Why not? I haven't had a good laugh in ages. Avon: Sensible. You could die laughing. (Blake's 7: City at the Edge of the World [C6]) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <kat(a)katspace.com> <http://www.katspace.com> / \ | \_.--.*/ | GenFicCrit mailing list <http://www.katspace.com/gen_fic_crit/> v | -----------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

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Re:Review: Limbo
by Mel Saxby 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

I read this story some time back, and I have to say I liked it a lot. The ocf didn't strike me as too Mary-Sue-ish, she was handled very well, IMO. Mind you, I haven't come across many of that type of story to compare it with. I particularly liked the way the widow's dog, which was her husbands ad only really tolerated her for his sake, attached itself to Avon, and the way he pretended not to care and then fondled it under cover of the table. Might say more later, but it's time I went to work. Mel "So, I'm not alone after all." Avon, Horizon. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: 1/2/02

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Photos from Death's Head
by Una McCormack 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Forwarded from Alan Stevens: See new release of cast photos taken during the recording for Kaldor City: Death's Head at: http://www.kaldorcity.com/picture.htm

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RE: [B7L] Re: Novelisations - Bounty & PPt.
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

David wrote: > Me, I go for the gentle giant idea. See post 17854. Oh, so do I and I'm sure that's what the series writers intended! > Sticking to canon sounds like a popular and good idea. > If and when my Gan Back Story is done I shall post it somewhere on the > net. It contains no surprises; he is just a worker on the Star Queen, > a bit like the cruiser Space Princess (Gold). Sounds interesting. As so little is known about the crew, I've had fun making up pasts for them too. Sorry to have put you off doing a novelisation though. That's why very few are interested in doing it, I suspect, as there's so little lee-way to be creative when just describing the ep in a story format. I may volunteer for one of my favourites though. Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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Re: Novelisations - Bounty & PPt.
by seven＠gaudaprime.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

(snipped nov. of S1 E11 & 12 and David's Gan on Star Queen) Nico I'm not sure about this one. My Gan has a different background, but I wouldn't impose that on a novelisation of a series episode. I too would like to do one some time when I'm not too busy, but I won't add anything from my universe, IOW tell one of my own stories. David It is a fair comment. I yield and defer, and delegate the novelisation to someone else. Nico I also noticed that Jill was very even-handed in her treatment of all the crew (indeed, she seems to like them all) and it would be nice if it stayed that way. I'm sure David wouldn't do this, but it would be a pity if anyone else doing a novelisation showed their prejudices for or against a character. Just as an example from the archives (snipped anti-female Gan) David Me, I go for the gentle giant idea. See post 17854. It is worth holding in mind. Nico Maybe people could suggest some rules for consistency, (e.g. stick to canon) but too many restrictions would also take the fun out of it. David Sticking to canon sounds like a popular and good idea. If and when my Gan Back Story is done I shall post it somewhere on the net. It contains no surprises; he is just a worker on the Star Queen, a bit like the cruiser Space Princess (Gold). DC http://tezcatlipoca.algonet.se/cgi-bin/getbyid.pl?id=17854

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RE: [B7L] Re: Novelisations - Bounty & PPt.
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

David wrote: > Jurgen wrote > Jacqui suggested that I could ask people to do one or two > novelisations at a time, which I thought was an excellent idea. Who > would like to novelise 'Bounty', or both 'Bounty' and 'Deliverance'? > > David > I don't know about the second one you mention but I could do > Bounty. > > If the novelisation gods don't object to my Gan having a flashback and > remembrance at the mention of the name Star Queen, then put me down > for Bounty. Also when Pressure Point comes along I may volunteer for > that too, since I have been looking at Kasabi and Veron for a while > now. I'm not sure about this one. My Gan has a different background, but I wouldn't impose that on a novelisation of a series episode. I too would like to do one some time when I'm not too busy, but I won't add anything from my universe, IOW tell one of my own stories. I also noticed that Jill was very even-handed in her treatment of all the crew (indeed, she seems to like them all) and it would be nice if it stayed that way. I'm sure David wouldn't do this, but it would be a pity if anyone else doing a novelisation showed their prejudices for or against a character. Just as an example from the archives (which Mel pointed me to this week), what if someone who thought Gan was a psychopathic woman-hating murderer showed him as such, therefore making it look like canon? Now, I'd be happy to read that in a story as an interesting idea, but not in a novelisation of the series. Maybe people could suggest some rules for consistency, (e.g. stick to canon) but too many restrictions would also take the fun out of it. Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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Re: Novelisations - Bounty & PPt.
by seven＠gaudaprime.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Jurgen wrote Jacqui suggested that I could ask people to do one or two novelisations at a time, which I thought was an excellent idea. Who would like to novelise 'Bounty', or both 'Bounty' and 'Deliverance'? David I don't know about the second one you mention but I could do Bounty. If the novelisation gods don't object to my Gan having a flashback and remembrance at the mention of the name Star Queen, then put me down for Bounty. Also when Pressure Point comes along I may volunteer for that too, since I have been looking at Kasabi and Veron for a while now. As it happens I have been thinking about Tarvin and Jenna recently. You can read the beginning of a Back Story at the link below. This story will simply carry on, and ultimately overlap with, if not include, a sort of novelisation of Bounty. DC http://www.gaudaprime.com/Bounty/JennaRecoversSaturfre.html (link expires 3-3-2)

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