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Re: [B7L] B7 Parents
by J MacQueen 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

>From: "Sally M" <smanton(a)hotmail.com> >Soolin would make an excellent nanny Mary Poppins from Hell: it wouldn't be a spoonful of sugar that helped the medicine go down... Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: [B7L] Re: New B7 merchandise
by J MacQueen 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

>From: Dana Shilling >Sally said: > > Alas, no. Sister did point out that it's a little hard to put together >a > > furry embodiment of Disembodied Evil. >Barney? Noooo! Regards Joanne (Where's that Professor Snape figure when you need it...) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: SFX readers poll
by Sally M 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

Julia wrote: "Sarcophagus is essentially a piece of fanfic by a pro script writer. Sand less so, because she wasn't available to do the rewrites, and it's more heavily influenced by Chris Boucher." They're both a little too romance-novelettish for me, though Sarcophagus has its good bits. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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B7 Parents
by Sally M 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

None of Our Heroes are perfect parental material, but then, who is? Given that, Gan would probably be best all round. The rest - variable, and none of them much good towards the end. But is we look at before they all became rather scary ... Tarrant would best be suited to the bright (but not too uniquely so), capable, sensible, efficient, dutiful sort of kid (as he is that sort of person). Well-meaning but simply inadequate children - the dull, the timid, the scatter-brained, the fumble-fingered - would be better off with Gan or Vila, who would make allowances. OTOH, Vila would be useles at setting limits or giving much guidance - he'd be fun to have around (would make a great granddad) but is too self-centred and easily swayed to make a fist of the drudgery of raising and training a child. An exceptionally gifted child would probably do quite well with Avon if they were old enough to have a mind that would interest him, and were gifted in areas that he could appreciate. Cally would be tolerant but somewhat earnest (and the endless Auron proverbs and sayings would guarantee serious rebellion the minute the poor sprog could manage it - a bit like the kids of ultra-earnest New Age holistic types who develop serious Maccas habits as soon as they can toddle their way there :-)) A gifted child with an unusual or creative mind would IMHO be best off with Blake, who is bright, the most inclined to appreciate a wide range of interests, and appreciates and is fascinated by other people (and is actually more readily, physically affectionate than the rest, something I personally *do* think is important to a child). But of course, there is one huge problem with Blake at the time of the series - how that conviction would affect his relationship with any child, his own or otherwise. Soolin would make an excellent nanny, but a dreadful parent. Jenna would raise practical, serious, effecient little smugglers without a skerrick of imagination or nonsense about them (hmmm ... maybe Jenna as parent and Vila as live-in uncle, since he could provide nonsense by the bucketload.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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SFX readers poll
by Sally M 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

Marian wrote: "I think the trouble with 'Animals' is that is lacks any humour ..." Well, any intentional humour :-) personally I find it extremely amusing, but for all the wrong reasons. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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To be or not to be a Jarrigoth?
by Sally M 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

Helen Atkins said: " It is far more elegant a concept than choosing, say, Carnell; because Carnell isn't hideously ugly," That's a matter of opinion, of course :-) No, of course Carnell isn't hideous, but he's nothing to get enthused about. Jarriere is waaaayyyy more appealing. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [B7L] Re: New B7 merchandise
by Sally M 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

Ebony wrote: "Thanks for posting this. I'm an incurable collector of merchandise and you've just made my day!" I wouldn't have called myself incurable until I was in the Warner Bros shop yesterday and asked if there were any fluffy toy Nazguls ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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RE: [B7L] B7 Parents
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

Leia wrote: > Following the discussion on Avon and Cally as parents my > thoughts began to > wander in the direction of the other crew members and what > kind of parents they'd make. Oh, an excellent job. I think you're spot on! > _Blake_ Would probably also expect the kid to take a lot of responsibility, perhaps by having a pet. > _Avon_ > > Would be undemonstrative and the > kids could well > not realise that dad really *was* concerned. In fact, they would probably feel ignored or unloved. Though I can see Avon playing chess and other games with his kids when they were old enough, with no quarter given of course. > _Vila_ > > Would hover nervously outside during the delivery and ask > twenty questions of anyone involved. Because he'd probably come over all faint if he were in the delivery room! > Would be perfectly happy to spend loads > and loads of > time looking after and playing with and showing the kids > stuff. Would make > even more mess than the kids with toys and finger-paints and > hopefully have > a tolerant partner who'd complain and make him clean it up, > but without > getting cross with him. Wouldn't be too overprotective, but > would probably > spoil them rotten. The kids would probably turn out more > well balanced than > most of the rest of the crew's offspring. Absolutely and totally agree. But what about Vila's 'profession'? Would he bring the kids up to be thieves too? Or let them make up their own minds. I can't see him actually discouraging them from a life of crime given his complete lack of shame and utter honesty about himself. > _Gan_ You're right. I think he'd be a very good partner and father. > _Jenna_ I can see her as a single mother too, dispensing with the annoying cause of it all (unless the father was Blake!) > _Cally_ I think she'd also teach them unarmed combat, and bring them up to be independent, like herself. > _Tarrant_ > Would be very ambitious for the kid and want him to be just > like dad until > the kid crashed his flyer into the garden, at which point he > would rapidly > change his mind and try to convince the kid that he should be > much less > reckless than dad. The kid wouldn't pay the blindest bit of > notice of that > and would end up racing space choppers or something while > Tarrant turned into a nervous wreck. LOL! > _Dayna_ > > ...then find somewhere safe and with lots of > countryside for the kids to play in. What about Sarran? Lots of obliging natives for them to hunt! > _Soolin_ > > Would be driven to distraction if her partner was broody or > fussy over her > during the pregnancy and would order him out of the delivery > room in no > uncertain terms. Actually I see her as the most likely to be > a single mum. > She'd be fiercely protective of her kids and god help anyone > who tried to harm them. Soolin's a hard one. I couldn't see her with kids at all, but I think you've nailed it. And what sort of partners would they all make? Dare I go there? Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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B7 Parents
by Leia Fee 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

Following the discussion on Avon and Cally as parents my thoughts began to wander in the direction of the other crew members and what kind of parents they'd make. I can't see any of them wanting to raise kids on the Lib, but supposing they's suceeded in defeating the Federation and found a nice safe planet somewhere. I've included Cally and Avon in my list as the circumstances I'm thinking off are quite different to those discussed before which would affect their reactions. Warning... long rambling post ahead... _Blake_ Probably he'd be terribly broody during the pregnancy and make himself a right nusicance at the delivery. Would smother the kid in good intentions but make a good father I think, though rather overprotective. He'd try and do everything right and worry horribly every time the kid was out of his sight. The kid would either turn out just like dad or completely opposite and be a right monster and go join a 'Bring back the Federation' group or something, at which point Blake would be horribly disappointed and be incredibly reaonable and comforting to the kid trying to understand why he'd do such a thing. Somehow I see him with an only child. _Avon_ Would keep himself aloof from the pregnancy and delivery, though he'd do a lot of reading up on it and offer advice until his partner was ready to smack him one for telling her what she ought to be doing. Would like to leave the bulk of the baby-changing, feeding, getting up in the middle of the night to his partner and only reluctantly get involved. Would have high expectations of the child and be rather demanding. Takes responsibility very seriously so would be protective and do his best to make sure th ekid had everything it needed. Would be undemonstrative and the kid could well not realise that dad really *was* concerned. _Vila_ Talks several times about having kids and I can see him with a lot of them. Would hover nervously outside during the delivery and ask twenty questions of anyone involved. Would be perfectly happy to spend loads and loads of time looking after and playing with and showing the kids stuff. Would make even more mess than the kids with toys and finger-paints and hopefully have a tolerant partner who'd complain and make him clean it up, but without getting cross with him. Wouldn't be too overprotective, but would probably spoil them rotten. The kids would probably turn out more well balanced than most of the rest of the crew's offspring. _Gan_ Would be calm and supportive during the pregnancy and delivery. Would not complain while his partner moans about morning sickness and back ache and odd cravings or when she screams and swears and tries to break his hand during the delivery. Would be ever so cautious and gentle with the baby. Like Blake he'd be a very well intentioned, conscientious father and do his best to instill an strong sense of right and wrong into the kids, but I think he'd be less over protective and probably do a better job as a result. _Jenna_ Would insist throughout the pregnancy that she was perfectly capable of doing anything whatsoever that she wanted and would have to be pretty much forced at gunpoint into resting and taking it easy. Wouldn't have bothered with the 'finding a nice safe planet' bit and would end up going into labour at the most awkward moment bewteen planet. Would swear a blue streak during the delivery. Would inist she could work *and* raise the kid and it'd end up growing up on a series of spacecraft. Wouldn't go out of her eway to teach the kid moral values or useful skills, but would involved it in the daily activity of the ship and teach by example. Wouldn't bother with being over protective, instead teaching the kid to look after itself. Would teach a daughter fifty creative and painful ways to fend off unwanted male attention. Would probably stop at one child, who'd end up very like her. _Cally_ The only one who really leaps to mind as the parent type and would devote herself fully too it. All the kids would be subjected to vitamin mixtures and odd remedies for every little sniffle and have music lessons or craft classes pressed upon them. Cally would try not to be too overprotective but wouldn't always manage it. She'd talk to the kids about everything and always encourage them to stand up for themselves and their beliefs. Her kids too I think would either end up just like her or as different as its possible to be. _Tarrant_ Would endure the pregnancy, delivery and baby stage and only really begin to interact with the kid when it started to grow up an bit more. Would buy expensive model spaceships and kibitz terribly while the kid put them together. Would be very ambitious for the kid and want him to be just like dad until the kid crashed his flyer into the garden, at which point he would rapidly change his mind and try to convince the kid that he should be much less reckless than dad. The kid wouldn't pay the blindest bit of notice of that and would end up racing space choppers or something while Tarrant turned into a nervous wreck. _Dayna_ Would do eat all the things and do all the exercises you're supposed to do when pregnant, then find somewhere safe and with lots of countryside for the kids to play in. Would encourage lots of outdoor games and buy the kids hundreds of hand-eye-coordination games to play with and ponies to ride. Would teach them combat skills as soon as they were old enough. The kids would spend all day scrapping with each other and climbing and falling out of trees and half drowning themselves in rivers. Dayna would be relaxed enough about such accidents and all the minor injuries that kids acquire. _Soolin_ Would be driven to distraction if her partner was broody or fussy over her during the pregnancy and would order him out of the delivery room in no uncertain terms. Actually I see her as the most likely to be a single mum. She'd be fiercly protective of her kids and god help anyone who tried to harm them. She wouldn't be clingy and overprotective though, much more reserved and perhaps a bit too distant. She'd do her best to find a safe planet, perhaps a rural, farming community like her own upbringing before it all went wrong, wanting to give the kids what she didn't ahve. She'd be hopelessly bored with such an existence though and end up moving to a nice lively spaceport city where the kids would promptly go complety wild with the sudden change and get into all sorts of trouble. They'd adapt quickly enough though and be better off for the fact that mum was more relaxed. Hmmm, now my mind is wandering off in fanfic-ish directions ;-) Leia

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Fwd: [B7L] Lego
by Sally M 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

Judith wrote: "We've been sent the most fantastic set of lego Blake's 7 photos that you can imagine. I thought I'd done some good B7 lego, but these are out of this world. The models were made by Steve Locke." They are incredibly good - I loved them all, but especially the Liberator flight deck which was amazing! And in the non-B7, the Tardis and the Alien were also wonderful. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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