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Re: [B7L] RE: B7 Parents
by Marian de Haan 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Nico wrote: >Poor Dayna wouldn't have much to talk about. Did they even get viscasts on Sarran?< The got a live visit from Justin, which must have made the scariest horror film look tame :-). Maybe that's why the Sarrans were so hostile - Justin tried to turn them into Ogs. Marian

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Re: [B7L] RE: B7 Parents
by Sally M 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Nico wrote: "Perhaps during the long interim times (e.g. when they followed Servalan for weeks ('Moloch') they put their feet up and talked desultorily of their pasts, homes, family," <g> can't you just hear it? Vila's reminiscences can't be trusted, Avon thinks it's none of *their* business. Dayna's would be soporific (50 different ways to kill Sarrans), Cally's incomprehensibly alien (though the others learn fast that the words "my people have a saying" is a good cue to find something important to do at the other end of the ship), Gan and Soolin keep their tragedies to themselves, and Soolin doesn't have any good memories anyway. Tarrant finds it hard to remember to avoid the words "when I was in the FSA" (a large part of his life) to people who still aren't convinced that isn't a hanging offence in itself. Blake avoids talking about his personal history where he can, he's still finding it hard and/or painful to remember at all. They're an ill-assorted bunch, most of them having very little in common, and they aren't just workmates, they live together. And the poor dears don't even have the weather. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Crew Meals
by Dana Shilling 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Canon is not very forthcoming on the subject of food (although we know that actual fruit and coffee beans do exist, but as rare luxuries, that nutrient packs exist, and that Vila knows what Avon means when he refers to a sandwich). Terran farming is probably a bad idea because of radiation contamination, but there probably are hydroponic farms. But there are agricultural planets (see Star One). I figure that there are lots of kinds of food analogs to supplement whatever fresh foods can be obtained. (There are also distilleries to make green booze.) The assumption I use in writing fanfic is that on the Liberator, there are regular sit-down meals for the crew, and that everyone has to take turns cooking and washing up (although this degree of civilized amenity has probably broken down on Scorpio and maybe on Xenon Base). In a way this is irrational--they couldn't all be awake at the same time--but I think Blake would insist on it as a means of instilling group cohesion. I think the others would also find it reassuring, although several of them wouldn't admit it. Nova figures that they heat things up for themselves in advanced microwave ovens...but that doesn't seem very companionable. I've seen plenty of stories involving "pleasure planets" but somehow no one except me seems worried about where you can find a really good restaurant on shore leave... -(Y)

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Anna's marriage
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Just had a thought - perhaps Anna was married twice - she was divorcing one when she was with Avon and married Chesku thereafter (which is why 'Sula Cheska, Earth rebel' rings no bells with Avon.) Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Re: [B7L] RE: B7 Parents
by Ellynne G. 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:02:43 +1300 "Nico Mody-Nikoloff" <nico(a)farsight.co.nz> writes: > > Although we only get to see them when they're on a mission or > handling a > crisis. Perhaps during the long interim times (e.g. when they > followed > Servalan for weeks ('Moloch') they put their feet up and talked > desultorily > of their pasts, homes, family, their favourite viscast series and > football > teams, Earth's batting order etc. I am suddenly imagining Avon, Tarrant, and Vila sitting on the flight deck, watching a game. Avon and Tarrant would get into lengthy discussions (heated on Tarrant's side, snidely cool [which is the same thing for him] on Avon's) about different teams chances. Avon would quote stats and the overall history of the game. Tarrant would talk about blood, sweat, and tears, having heart and team spirit, and then give specific anecdotes (like the time his favorite player, whose overall stats stink, made some heroic save in the last quarter [or half, or inning, or whatever]). Vila, who just loves the game, would sometimes get dragged in. If nothing else, he would be a convenient person for Avon and Tarrant to redirect comments to, ("Hey, Vila, do you know what happens when a student flunks out of Federation Banking and transfers to the Space Academy? The grade point at both schools goes up." [Whether or not he mentioned the actual person this joke was based on, Jarvik, is a matter of speculation]). Dayna would try to get involved but would be baffled ("The object of the game is _what_? A hat trick? What hat? And what does the quaffle have to do with it?"). Cally would simply be appalled at the violence ("My people have a saying: any game with frequent head injuries should only be played by idiots who don't have anything left to lose" [Vila: "Oh, that's not the players, Cally. This game's really nonviolent. You're watching the fans"]). Orac would wind up quietly designing a bookie subroutine. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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RE: [B7L] Crew Meals
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

> The assumption I use in writing fanfic is that > on the Liberator, there are regular sit-down > meals for the crew, and that everyone has > to take turns cooking and washing up I make that assumption too. Blake and Gan cook simple meat and 2 veg meals; Avon cooks gourmet food (although regrettably for palates inferior to his); Vila cooks curries, pizzas, felafels, and grilled cheese on toast (all vegetarian--he can't stand the sight of blood and the idea of touching dead flesh gives him the willies); Jenna doesn't go to much trouble--it's stew or soup and if you don't like it then you can go hungry; Cally cooks healthy low-fat meals for the crew's own good but binges on cakes, biscuits, and anything she can get her hands on in between (she's bulimic); Dayna grills meat in the absence of an outside fire and serves it with salad; Tarrant likes a good fry-up--steaks, sausages, chips; Soolin hasn't done much cooking although she secretly remembers her family's good farm meals with nostalgia--she does roasts and stews which are hard to get wrong, and she can't be bothered with fiddly sauces like the ones Avon does. > In a way > this is irrational--they couldn't all be awake at > the same time I think most would be. There are 5 of them (6 when Gan was there), and I have them on an Terran 'day' and 'night'. If they rotate through 3 8-hour shifts, only one is on at night, so most would be awake at the same time. Only the person on watch would be missing from a meal. On the series, it looks as if most gravitate to the flight deck during the 'day' for company, even Avon who could work in more peace in his cabin. > I've seen plenty of stories involving "pleasure planets" > but somehow no one except me seems worried about > where you can find a really good restaurant on shore > leave... Oh, I am too! The Lib had enough food for decades ('Horizon'?), but they must have wanted to shop for fresh vegs and unusual items they craved. Of course, the Lib was probably capable of storing fresh food indefinitely with its advanced technology, so they may well have had lots of fruit, vegs, fresh bread in some sort of stasis. I think they did. But they'd still have to shop for it now and then. I can imagine some would regard it as a chore, others would welcome the nice safe break from the ship. I have at least 6 meals at dirt-side restaurants in Vila's e-mails, and also have them making frequent shopping trips from Xenon base for food and other supplies. Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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RE: [B7L] RE: B7 Parents
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Sally M wrote: > Nico wrote: > "Perhaps during the long interim times (e.g. when they followed > Servalan for weeks ('Moloch') they put their feet up and > talked desultorily of their pasts, homes, family," > > <g> can't you just hear it? Vila's reminiscences can't be > trusted An aside--why do people think this? He's very honest about being a thief, and doesn't tell tall stories. I think what we hear about him is quite consistent. He was a Delta (he never claimed otherwise), he was in the JD wards and at least one other penal colony. I see the ignorance rating (4th or 5th grade) as separate from the Delta grading. I don't see why Space Command wouldn't draft Deltas into their ranks (most would probably be quite eager--join Space Fleet and see the galaxy--and we saw some officers who were probably lower grades e.g. S2 Travis), and Vila certainly had the intelligence (if not the courage or inclination) to be an officer. I can see that he'd buy an ignorance rating (as opposed to grading) which would disqualify him. I can see Vila rabbiting on about anything under the suns except his personal life. I think he's as private as Avon in his way but uses a different strategy (a very successful one) to deflect interest). > Avon thinks it's none of *their* business. Absolutely! He might listen to the others though without acknowledging his interest. Dayna's would be soporific (50 different ways to kill Sarrans) Poor Dayna wouldn't have much to talk about. Did they even get viscasts on Sarran? > the others learn fast that the words "my people have a saying" is > a good cue to find something important to do at the other end of > the ship), And I'd react the same way much as I like Cally. > Tarrant finds it hard to remember to avoid > the words "when I was in the FSA" LOL! > And the poor dears don't even have the weather. Oh, no? Blake: That was a pretty severe meteor storm. Vila: Not as bad as that one you made us go through on the way to Destiny. Made me sick to the stomach. Gan: You shouldn't have eaten a whole packet of biscuits just before it, Vila. Jenna: You think that was bad? Let me tell you about the time I was smuggling black gold for the Amagons. In one trip we hit meteor storms, black holes, a supernova that wasn't on the charts, and a really thick nebula--visibility was down to 5000 spacials. Cally: My people tell stories of clouds which slowly digest spaceships. Vila: If you're trying to scare me, Cally--you're succeeding. Avon: Yes, well. Some people will believe anything. Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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Ensor and Tarriel cells
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Another possibility A technology as advanced as the System's would probably be able to create spaceships smaller than 'Deep Space Vessels' which were capable of reaching Federation territory: they would want to know about potential threats, new technology etc. It would be necessary for suitable cover to be provided to disguise the point of origin of such ships (the equivalent of the Ortega and the Scorpio) and their crews. Ensor and Avon are both 'inherently highly able with technology' and as I suggested in an earlier email, this might be why they left/were removed from the System if they did come from it - better exile than Alta-zation. Ensor thus has the use of both System and Terran backgrounds to create the tarriel cells - which he does at a much younger age than would otherwise be possible (and he does have the benefits of seeing things from outside). (Probably the same argument could be used with Avon and his development of the teleport system in 'Trial' - he has worked on the Aquitar project). Orac is developed as a 'jumped up search engine' and computer (and the rumours Servalan mentions in 'Deliverance' probably arise from traces such as are left in 'Traitor' - and being a 'curious computer' persuades Ensor to give him information about the System's computers. If Ensor could get access to his original System-based ship this would not be difficult (perhaps Orac's flyer is a piece of System technology). (As a possibility in SF generally - would the names of 'most' inhabited planets and their systems be the 'local language' equivalent of 'Earth'/'Home Planet'/'Our Solar System'?) Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Re: [B7L] Re: Jarrigoths again
by J MacQueen 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

>From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson(a)mcr1.poptel.org.uk> >Harriet said: > >I don't think I've *got* any pictures of Og. >Do you want some? Steve obviously has one of those trenchcoats you see in cartoons, where the wearer says, "Psst! Want some [whatever the merchandise is}?" I'm not sure I want to know what else in those pockets. Regards Joanne (well, it might be Gollum...) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: Jarrigoths again
by Steve Rogerson 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Harriet said: >I don't think I've *got* any pictures of Og. Do you want some? -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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