Blakes7 May 2001

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Re: [B7L] Re: Space Fall
by Jenny Kaye 17 May '01

17 May '01

M wrote: > > > M wrote: > > > > > > > >It's also interesting that Jenna is sent over to the Liberator ... > >I didn't actually write this first part, I replied to it. > > > >However what I find really interesting is that the Captain who had been > >saying the murders of the crew were wrong, when profit enters the fray, he > >doesn't mind sacrificing Blake, Avon and Jenna. You're right, he is a hypocrite. And if you read my Leylan/Raiker analysis you will see that he wants Blake, Avon and Jenna dead. Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] A word of warning
by Jenny Kaye 17 May '01

17 May '01

Susan Beth wrote: >What a sick thing to do. > >All my sympathies, Annie! I hope you'll have lots and lots of positive >fannish encounters at MediaWest to wipe away the taste of this nastiness. When animal camouflage breaks down. Fun this, isn't it? Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] A word of warning
by Jenny Kaye 17 May '01

17 May '01

Tigerm1019(a)aol.com wrote: >Good lord! This is sickening. :-( > >I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, Annie. Hopefully MWC will go >very >well for you, and you'll have lots of fun to counterbalance this stuff a >little. When animal camouflage breaks down. You too. Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Ellynne's joke
by Helen Krummenacker 17 May '01

17 May '01

> When he and his wife come home, the milkman is dead on the floor. > > > There were about 20 people present when the joke was tole and, when > polled, we gave the reasons stated. > Ah! So the division of laughter among the sexes goes from this-- the women are amused by the idea labour pains would kill a man ("They're such babies") and the men laugh because of the father not recognizing fromt he lack of pain he's a cuckold.

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Re: Vila's record
by Helen Krummenacker 17 May '01

17 May '01

> 1. Vila--recidivist thief (although what he's actually shown doing in > subsequent episodes is more like safecracking, which is a specialist > skill) > True, but I suspect he began as a pickpocket. The slieght of hand he uses to do the magic tricks is also very suitable for pick-pocketing. In fact pick-pocketing *is* a skill serious slieght of hand magicians frequently study... they have to be able to plant things on people without them knowing, for instance. (This is one case where I know what I'm talking about-- my husband was seriously into magic and we went over the biographies of a lot of magicians). IMO, it is more probable that a more pickpocket met up with people in jail who could lead him to the more specialized crime of safecracking, than for him to start as a safe-cracker and pick up the other as a hobby. Also having both skill sets would mean the general term thief covers both aspects rather than a more specialist term.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Space Fall
by M 17 May '01

17 May '01

On Thu, 17 May 2001 09:39:17 -0000, Jenny Kaye wrote: > > M wrote: > > > >It's > > > > also interesting that Jenna is sent over to the Liberator ... I didn't actually write this first part, I replied to it. However what I find really interesting is that the Captain who had been saying the murders of the crew were wrong, when profit enters the fray, he doesn't mind sacrificing Blake, Avon and Jenna. M. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/

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Re: [B7L] A word of warning
by Tigerm1019＠aol.com 17 May '01

17 May '01

In a message dated 05/17/2001 9:55:28 AM Central Daylight Time, Ashton7(a)aol.com writes: > It's because I cherish the lyst that I was reluctant to report that lack of > civility on the lyst now extends beyond its confines. It's also because I > cherish the lyst that I feel I have to share this distressing situation. > Because the next target may be you. <snip> > If you will click on the website link of the person posting the disturbing > messages, > I think many of you will be saddened and surprised to find a rather prolific > member of this Lyst as the perpetrator. I don't know what to make of this > behavior. I'm still coming to terms with it. Until it happened, I wouldn't > have expected a fan to do this to another fan. Good lord! This is sickening. :-( I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, Annie. Hopefully MWC will go very well for you, and you'll have lots of fun to counterbalance this stuff a little. Tiger M

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Re: [B7L] A word of warning
by Susan Beth 17 May '01

17 May '01

Ashton7(a)aol.com wrote: >Yesterday, while attempting to find the source of this Internet Vandalism, I >discovered a newsgroup post that called for an "attack" on my website. {snip} >I think many of you will be saddened and surprised to find a rather prolific >member of this Lyst as the perpetrator. I don't know what to make of this >behavior. I'm still coming to terms with it. Until it happened, I wouldn't >have expected a fan to do this to another fan. What a sick thing to do. All my sympathies, Annie! I hope you'll have lots and lots of positive fannish encounters at MediaWest to wipe away the taste of this nastiness. Susan Beth (susanbeth33(a)mindspring.com)

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Re: [B7L] A word of warning
by Jenny Kaye 17 May '01

17 May '01

Julia wrote: >Given the current potential for confusion, I will point out that the >name concerned is not the solitary inhabitant of my shiny new killfile. Ooh, handbag! >This does not exclude the use of sock puppets, of course. Ooh, double handbag! When animal camouflage breaks down. Now who's the hunter and who's the hunted? Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: crimes and punishment
by Jenny Kaye 17 May '01

17 May '01

Iain Coleman wrote: > >No one on this list, or off it, is obliged to spend one iota of their time > >and energy engaging with you. That's true. In our recent exchanges you had managed to > >achieve a more-or-less civilised email message. Thank you. Before I could reply, > >though, I witnessed the latest in your contemptible little spat with Steve > >K. As it happens, Steve is (in no particular order): a good guy, my > >friend, and right. I'm sure he is a good guy and a friend, but he is very wrong indeed. >Socialized ground-ape that I am, I tend to be dissuaded > >from friendly conversation with someone when they deal shabbily with my > >friends. Ah, but what happens when your friend deals shabbily with someone else? Do you turn away? > >In your brief and sorry history on this mailing list, you have shown > >yourself to be deeply ill-informed about crucial issues in performance, > >analysis, literature and epistemology. Is that right? You have also demonstrated an > >absolute unwillingness to learn, I'm learning all the time, Iain. an imperviousness to any suggestions that > >your interpretations might be questionable or open to improvement, I am always open to suggestions. and a > >deeply unpleasant personal manner. Here we go again. The result of this is that people are > >increasingly unwilling to spend any time in discussion with you. For example, I read your analysis of 'Spacefall' with interest, finding things > >I agreed with, and things I would question. Then please ask your questions. If anyone else had written > >that piece, I would have replied and perhaps we could have fruitfully > >discussed the issues. As it was you, however, there didn't seem to be much > >point. You are very angry with me. I can see that, but don't let your anger blind you to what is really going on here. > >It's a shame. That's true. When one strips away the arrogance, condescension and wilful > >stupidity, your analyses of Gan's character and of the first two episodes > >are interesting, thought-provoking and could be valuable contributions. Then I'm not stupid am I? Think about it. I'm sorry I hurt you and Steve, but you have to see the big picture. Do you think I am writing all these emails and putting all this effort in for fun? If it's not for fun, perhaps malice then? No, that's no the answer. So what does that leave Iain? As > >it is, though, your words will increasingly fall on deaf ears, as people > >give up on you in disgust. When this happens, you will doubtless interpret > >it as the cowardly untermenschen, That is an interesting word. Untermenschen means "subhuman". It's a term the Nazis used. Hitler knew a lot about mind control. He once said, "I am not here to make man better. I am here to exploit his weaknesses." Don't confuse me with him, Iain. beaten down by the force of your logic, > >retreating into a cosy hive -- rather than the natural human reaction to a > >person who is self-righteous, nasty, and unable to admit to ever being > >wrong. You are angry with me for attacking your friend. That tells me that you are a very good friend to Steve. A friend like you is a rare thing, and needs to be cherished. I hope Steve realises this. > >Anyway, I doubt I'll bother replying to you again. Please reply to me offsite. Carry on the way you're > >going, and soon you'll have the comfort of being left all alone in your > >little corner, free to declaim to yourself without fear that the echoes > >might challenge you. I don't fear challenge, I want to be challenged. Don't let your anger at me stop you from arguing your points. You do that and everyone loses. Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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