Blakes7 March 2001

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Re: [B7L] Science Fiction and Political Reality
by J MacQueen 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

>From: Katharine Woods <kjw(a)whitecrow.demon.co.uk> >Yes, and Dayna got really good at throwing concealed weapons when >Justin told her that the MCC had rescinded its decision to allow >women as full members. She reasoned that she'd become the best and >most accurate spin bowler (?) of them all and wouldn't it be fun >if the message was accompanied by a bit of boom today? I am now trying not to imagine Dayna as a Krikkit warrior prototype. Thank you, Katharine! <grin> Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: slash (not much shorter)
by J MacQueen 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

> >>>>> "Una" == Una McCormack <una(a)qresearch.org.uk> writes: > > And even my jaded little eyes shot wide open on learning of Tolkien > > slash recently. >Since I learned that there is slashfic for Thomas the Tank Engine and >the Teletubbies, _nothing_ in that vein has surprised me. > Calle Dybedahl Then the suggestion, to Neil Gaiman by a regular on alt.fan.neil-gaiman and alt.callahans, that the worst of the worst would be Croup and Vandemar slash, won't surprise you either. It'll horrify others (it boggled more than just my mind), and not merely because of 'slash' objections either, I reckon... Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Eclectic 21 Convention
by sue wadsworth-ladkin 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Hi fellow B7 fans The following isn't exactly on any particular topic, but, for any fans of Gareth Thomas and Jacqueline Pearce out there, they are both confirmed guests at Eclectic 21. This convention is taking place at the newly refurbished Holiday Inn, Leicester, on May 25-27 2001. Other confirmed guests are Michael Billington (UFO), Ed Bishop (UFO), Steve Englehart (Comics writer), Storm Constantine (Fantasy/Gothic writer) and Frank Maher (Stunt co-ordinator for Blakes 7, The Prisoner and many more TV series and films.) The website, for further information is:- www.eclectic21.co.uk Tel: 01422 376031 or write to:- 47 Bennetts Court Yate Bristol BS37 4XH Hope to see you there! Sue & John _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Eclectic 21 Convention
by sue wadsworth-ladkin 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Hi fellow B7 fans The following isn't exactly on any particular topic, but, for any fans of Gareth Thomas and Jacqueline Pearce out there, they are both confirmed guests at Eclectic 21. This convention is taking place at the newly refurbished Holiday Inn, Leicester, on May 25-27 2001. Other confirmed guests are Michael Billington (UFO), Ed Bishop (UFO), Steve Englehart (Comics writer), Storm Constantine (Fantasy/Gothic writer) and Frank Maher (Stunt co-ordinator for Blakes 7, The Prisoner and many more TV series and films.) The website, for further information is:- www.eclectic21.co.uk Tel: 01422 376031 or write to:- 47 Bennetts Court Yate Bristol BS37 4XH Hope to see you there! Sue & John Wadsworth-Ladkin _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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A note from the Guradian
by Julia Jones 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Harriet and I offer without comment this quote from today's Guardian: Homosexuality will stop being regarded as a psychiatric disorder in China next month, on the publication of new guidelines by the Chinese Psychiatric Association. They will say that homosexuality is part of "normal" sexual behaviour, with the proviso that those who are unhappy with their sexual orientation may still be judged to be in need of psychiatric help. -- Julia Jones

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Re: [B7L] Shakespeare (was Canon and Art)
by Marian de Haan 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Iain Coleman wrote: >I wonder If this has anything to do with Shakespeare having been an actor? Stage directions are beloved of writers, loathed or ignored by actors.< Or, considering he wrote such a lot, maybe it was lack of time: "What do you want, a rewrite and stage directions on this one, or the next play?" (Like, to bring this back to B7, Terry Nation's "Do you want a rewrite or the next episode?") Marian

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Re: [B7L] groping...
by Marian de Haan 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Nathan Hook wrote: >also a scene which cracks me up...on Gold. when Avon first arrives on the ship space princess and they head off to Keelers office a female pasenger wearing a skimpy blue braless number walks towards avon and soolin. watch where Paul darrows eyes go...with a very big grin on his face. as any man would...:)< <grin> One of my favourite scenes. It proves two things to me: 1) Avon is still sane enough to enjoy a good thing when he sees it. 2) Avon is unambiguously heterosexual. (I'd believe him to be bi if anywhere in the series I'd seen him give that same look to a *man*.) Does anyone know if that lusty look was Paul Darrow's idea or the director's? Marian

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Re: [B7L] Re: slash
by Ashton7＠aol.com 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/7/01 1:58:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, wilsonfisk2(a)yahoo.com writes: << Hang on. In the space of a few days you've gone from arguing that the intentions of the authors/actors are irrelevant (dead author theory) or at the very least concurring with the views of those who do, to demanding I provide evidence that the cast/crew didn't intend it?>>> I made no such demand, because, as you've pointed out, I don't really give a fig what the "intent" of any of those people was. I see the show as I see it. I was responding to your contention that you seemed to somehow "know" that intent. <<< Very well. Paul Darrow's attitude to slash is well known, and has caused the poor man no end of trouble with those who just won't let it go. Chris Boucher has rubbished the idea publically and Gareth Thomas doesn't think that Blake and Avon were lovers. They have all said that they never intended such an interpretaion to be taken from thier text. OK? >> No, not okay. As I very succinctly pointed out, unless you know the intent of the director (of every episode), the actors, the editors, and every single writer, you can't speak for what the "intent" of the show was. A television show is not the work of any single individual. It is the work and effort of many, including many behind-the-scenes crew that I didn't even mention. The end result is often (perhaps even usually) quite different that what the writer originally envisioned. I would be very interested, btw, to know the "no end of trouble" that Paul Darrow has experienced from the existence of slash stories and fanzines, other than the trouble he has made for himself. For instance, have slash B7 fanzines stopped Paul Darrow from getting further jobs in the acting community? Have they caused him to be recognized on the street as a homosexual? In what way have they impacted his day to day life, especially since they depict a character he played over 20 years ago on a TV show? Annie

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(no subject)
by Wilson Fisk 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Annie: > Yes, and Leah has repeatedly explained to you that > the degree of > connectivity > between "sex" and "pornography" is different for > every individual. No. Not explained and not repeatedly. She made the point once and I agreed with her. > That's > what you seem to be having trouble grasping. No, I have no trouble grasping it. None. > For some people they *are* > the > same thing. No. They *can't* be. Photos/Towers. Remember? Sheesh! wf wilsonfisk2(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [B7L] Re: slash
by Ashton7＠aol.com 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/6/01 7:47:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, wilsonfisk2(a)yahoo.com writes: << > We are not looking to prove that they are > homosexual or bisexual just that > that possibility is not excluded. It is not specifically excluded, but that is becase the thought of this interpretation never crossed anyone's mind. >> And you know this... how? Unless you can claim to be the director, the editor, the actors, and the writers all rolled up into one, you have nothing to base this statement upon. Certainly nothing to make a "case" with. Annie

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