Carol wrote:
>I always suspected that Tarrant was a descendent
> of Angus Fraser.
Can't see the resemblance there... but we did establish pretty conclusively
that he was a descendant of Frank Tarrant. Hm, and Vila is descended from
Phil Tufnell, so Middlesex seem to be over-represented in the future. Just
what we always said about the late 20th century England side.
>What's a "Barmy Army"?
A bunch of people who travel overseas to support the England cricket team,
and then sit in …
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Harriere
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>From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net>
>From: Una McCormack <una(a)qresearch.org.uk>
> > 2 November 1982. The first programme shown was 'Countdown', and the
>first
> > Countdown Conundrum was 'highlight'. Please don't ask me how I know
>that.
>Because you're really Carol Vorderman in disguise?
No, she's really Ian "Molly" Meldrum in disguise.
Regards
Joanne
(that'll make about as much sense to the Poms as Countdown being anything
other than a …
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Tavia asked when Channel 4 started. I know it was the first week of November,
because I still have the poster, but I'm not sure which year, but I'd guess 1982.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
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In a message dated 3/7/01 1:25:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wilsonfisk2(a)yahoo.com writes:
<< Fan discussions, as discusiions of
artifacts are closer to Lit. Crit than any other form
of expression, hence the falling back on the
rules/ideology of criticism as providing a framework.
>>
I've been in fandom over 20 years and I've rarely met a fan who wants to
discuss their favorite show in the style of literary criticism. Not that
there's anything wrong with doing so. It just …
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regarded as "fun" by fans, in my experience.
For the record, I have two university degrees. One in English (yes, I know
how to do literary criticism... fancy that). The other in Anthropology. I
have a minor in Russian. I used to be able to do Russian technical and
medical translations quite well. My current hobby is reading Egyptian
hieroglyphs (because I am a frustrated archeologist... my university offered
a degree only in anthropology and I settled for that as the closest to my
interests). I have worked for the last 20 years as an Engineer. 15 of those
years for AT&T and the last 5 years for IBM. I have done quite well in my
field. My father was the chairman of the Engineering department at Texas A&M
for most of my life. He had a PhD, of course, and he wrote a number of
textbooks on Statistics that, the last time I checked, were still being used
in university courses. I understand the words that Neil likes to use to try
to intellectually belittle other members of the list. I just choose to have
conversations in normal, spoken English. I am well acquainted with academia,
with how to debate, and with how to write an essay.
I do not indulge in fandom to do so, however, and the great majority of fans
I have known over the years don't, either. Your mileage, of course, may vary.
Annie
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:51:14 +1100 "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen(a)hotmail.com>
writes:
>
>
>
> >From: Mistral <mistral(a)centurytel.net>
> > > Oh, yeah, sure. Just pop on in here and behave like some kind of
> kernal,
> > > giving orders. Fine, bee that way. I don't want another 'row'.
> >Please, people. Can't we learn to live in hominy?
Pease, have some grits! Times like this separate the wheat from the
chaff! A rye take on life will see …
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>
> There's another page that teaches you to draw puffins, but that's
> another
> story...
>
Ah, the B7 connection for the book "Murder with Puffins" rears its head.
The murder suspects included all the members of a fanatic birdwatching
society, some of whom took great exception to children's books about a
happy puffin family, that showed all the puffins in full mating plummage
in their Christmas story (wrong time of year) including the baby sister
(bringing up the term 'avian Lolita').
Neil, did they ever appear in a B7 episode? And were they working for or
against Servalan?
And does this mean her black and white wardrobe hides an avian past,
possibly connected with British bird song heard on numerous planets?
Ellynne
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In a message dated 3/6/01 10:04:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net writes:
<< So go preen so smugly, and congratulate yourself on your adroit semantic
manoeuvring, and otherwise pamper your over-inflated ego with whatever other
contrived reassurances it demands.<<
Dear me, what an alarming case of projection. Someone else omits a critical
word in their debate, and *I'm* somehow guilty of semantic manoeuvring, ego
and self-congratulation.
>>Do not on …
[View More]any account reflect on the possibility that you have as good as
admitted that you knew what we were talking about from the start and
deliberately obstructed constructive dialogue for whatever discreditable
reasons you choose to harbour.<<
Since you and your cohort never once stated what you actually meant, that
would be a tad unrealistic, don't you think? I'm flattered, however, that you
believe I have powers of extrasensory perception. Why, I must have
automatically *known* that the repeated word of the generalized word 'sex' in
the phrase "pornography and sex are not the same thing" actually meant
"pornography and the performance of the act of sex are not the same thing."
Yep, I'm plub flattered. I'm patting myself on the back now, as you recommend.
>>Do you seriously think you're not that transparent?>>
Well, I'll certainly take credit for some clarity, thanks.
Leah
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In a message dated 3/6/01 10:04:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net writes:
<< Do not on any account reflect on the possibility that you have as good as
admitted that you knew what we were talking about from the start and
deliberately obstructed constructive dialogue for whatever discreditable
reasons you choose to harbour.
Do you seriously think you're not that transparent? >>
Do you seriously think that people are so stupid that a) they don't
understand …
[View More]what you're saying and b) they don't understand that you are being
deliberately insulting?
Annie
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In a message dated 3/6/01 7:41:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net writes:
<< I merely think you are mistaken in thinking that your chosen
mode of engagement is that adopted by most fans most of the time and hence
represents a normative mode against which all others should be compared. >>
I humbly beg your pardon, Neil. Obviously my knowledge and direct experience
with a dozen or more fandoms spread out over two decades or more doesn't
entitle me to make any …
[View More]observations about what fans generally are like, what
they like, what they like to discuss, what they like to do, or just about
anything else.
Perhaps you'd like to correct my spelling now? Or my grammar? Or perhaps
you'd like to tell me some more boring scientific statistics? That's
obviously what "fans" like and I've been wrong for several decades... (not to
mention that I and the rest of the internet are apparently very wrong about
what constitutes "netiquette" in a debate).
Annie
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>From: "Nathan Hook" <nhook(a)bemail.org>
>a toyota add here in NZ nearly got banned Una because of the frequent use
>of the word 'Bugger'.
They objected to it here, too. Not on the grounds of language, though, but
because certain people in rural areas suggested it made country people look
like idiots. Hell, if some twit in a ute sprayed mud with his back wheels
over my washing, 'bugger' might be the word I'd use too. Though "I'll bloody
kill you the next time I see you" …
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Regards
Joanne
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