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Re: [B7L] Bonfire night
by Sally Manton 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Leia wrote: <Well I think technically it's celebrating the *failure* of the attempt and the rather grisly death of the perpentrator isn't it? So maybe it's not so unlikely the Federation would have something similar.> I'm sure Travis would like to spend a fine autumnal evening burning Blake in effigy ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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RE: [B7L] Re: fanfic etiquette query...
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Alison Page <alison_page(a)becta.org.uk> wrote: >I think the two stories show that two people had a similar idea. > >Alison > > 'Duplication' can happen elsewhere There was a 'five minute fiction' story in one of the (UK) women's weeklies in the last fortnight which was a near replica of a 'Tales of the Unexpected' (TV) episode a few years back. Jacqui __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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fanfic on the lyst
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

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Fwd: [B7L] Re: fanfic etiquette query...
by Sally Manton 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Jean wrote: <This is definitely plagiarism. I agree with Isobel Hamilton that Pat's "Mixed Doubles" is probably the original and far superior. The plagiarized untitled story is a clumsy attempt to repackage the storyline.> Possibly, possibly not ... but <veg> if so, possibly not even *Pat's* story, but one of the range (with a range of different pairings yet) I've seen the idea used for. It's an adult fic staple, and a lot of the stories tend to be very similar unless very well written. And from the website, the second writer has a thing for badly written Avon-Cally stories, so the inspiration could have come from an A/B or B/J or ... <Let us hope the error was made in ignorance, although I rather doubt it.> Let's be generous shall we? She saw an idea she liked and did try to use it for herself, but simply wasn't skilled enough. Not everyone who wants to create fantasies is good at it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: fanfic etiquette query...
by Isobel Hamilton 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

OK having rummaged around to re-find the 2 fics, it is not quite as blatant copying as I first thought, so I'll give you all the urls and you can decide for yourselves. I am sure there is a case of story idea copying though - firstly because I can't believe 2 people came up with this same idea, and secondly because this can't be the same author at work. The styles are about as completely different as they could be, plus one is on a homepage with background about the author and when she wrote the stories etc, and the other is just in a general fanfic archive (with the dire intro - 'It's just a quikie. It's another Avon/ Cally one im afraid. It will take you about 5 mins to read so please do (it would be nice if you arrived it too...kiss kiss, pretty please!)' ) The homepage version (and I am certain the original) is at: http://www.debchan.com/pat/doubles.html And the far inferior version is at: http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=228682 (fanfiction.net can sometimes be *very* slow to access...) I'd be interested to know what you all think! Isobel ------------------------------------------ Dayna: Avon why do you keep everything to yourself? Why so secretive? Avon: Perhaps I'm shy. ------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Re: fanfic etiquette query...
by Tigerm1019＠aol.com 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

In a message dated 11/07/2001 6:54:37 AM Central Standard Time, isobel19(a)hotmail.com writes: > The homepage version (and I am certain the original) is at: > http://www.debchan.com/pat/doubles.html > > And the far inferior version is at: > http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=228682 Thanks, Isobel. I've looked at both stories, and I don't think there was any actual plagiarism. The basic idea of both stories is a fairly common one in SF or fantasy series fanfic, as Susan Beth pointed out. It's a fairly obvious way to get two characters together who aren't obviously involved in canon. So I think it's more a case of two writers using the same idea, one far more effectively than the other. Tiger M

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Re: fanfic etiquette query...
by Alison Page 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

I think the two stories show that two people had a similar idea. Alison ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************

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Dorian's room
by Andrew Williams 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Nico wrote: >Dorian's basement room was carved out of a special mineral deposit, and >derived its properties from that. He told Avon about it, and Vila heard as >he hid on the stairs. > >What was to stop either of them from using any or all of the others to >enable him to live longer, apart from his conscience? Did anyone have the >room or the access to it blown up? In the novelisation, and the original script, the room was blown up - but it never made it to the screen so the basement cavern was presumably still accessible. In fact, if you listen to all the remarks between Dorian & Avon, it adds another twist to the "Avon goes mad in s4" theory. The room "accepts" Avon; it affects/controls Dorian ("By now I probably would be"), etc. Perhaps not all the "madness & rotting corruption" settled back on Dorian when the creature was destroyed. I always wondered what the consequences would be if Avon had managed to get the barely-alive Blake back to the cavern (So what if Blake's not moving and the base is destroyed? No problem). Andrew.

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What if?
by M 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

I was just thinking of alternative Character plot lines. The first one I thought of is Travis Wouldn't it have been interesting if the second Travis was the the first but in a new body. You could have had episodes where we're left guessing, then Blake eventually realises the truth. The eyes or the soul is still bad or his justice radar or something. You could have got rid of the arm and eye and it would have made Voice from the Past poignant if you could see more of him, but they don't know who he is. He could even have been in the body of an actual important rebel. Maybe the Federation could have something like that equipment from Ultraworld, but that puts people's minds in other bodies. Any other ideas? M. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/

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Dorian's room
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Dorian's basement room was carved out of a special mineral deposit, and derived its properties from that. He told Avon about it, and Vila heard as he hid on the stairs. What was to stop either of them from using any or all of the others to enable him to live longer, apart from his conscience? Did anyone have the room or the access to it blown up? Have I missed something? If I'd been a member of that crew, I'd have been extremely nervous, esp. as Avon got more unstable. Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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