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Re: [B7L] Accidental avatars
by Sally Manton 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

Part of the appeal of Avon as avatar (besides the fact that he's most popular character, of course :-)) and also Vila could be partly because they are - along with Servalan - the most dramatically theatrical characters in the series. This isn't meant as a criticism (goodness knows, I love the pair of 'em) but there's no doubt it's easier as a writer to pick up the *outward* aspects of both of them - both their physical appearance (Avon's especially being fairly striking) and their manners and mannerisms are more striking, and can therefore be copied *and recognised* more easily. I mean, you can write a Gan avatar, but who's going to recognise it? But a dark-haired, pale-faced, sarky bastard with a clipped mannered voice, a hint of tragedy ... (okay, okay, and maybe the mouth and/or nose). Of course, there's much more to Avon that that, but these are the sort of things that are easy to cut and paste across :-) And other characters - Gan, Dayna, Soolin, Tarrant, even Blake - don't have as many of them (Jenna does, but the ones she has, the brassy blonde with a heart of tarnished gold, is such a traditional character anyway that any avatar would be lost in the general cliche). As always, all IMO ... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Fw: The Caves of Androzani
by Una McCormack 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

Forwarded from Alan Stevens: A new special feature for Christmas on www.kaldorcity.com: www.kaldorcity.com/androzani.html In these days when cave-dwelling terrorists threaten the political stability of powerful nations, environmental wonders are being sacrificed for base profit and beautiful women are at risk from sexual predators, the "Kaldor City" team take a second look at Robert Holmes' Gothic/Orwellian masterpiece, "The Caves of Androzani." You'll never watch the news, or this story, in the same way again! Also: Kudos for "Occam's Razor" from the magazines and newsgroups: www.kaldorcity.com/kudos.html

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Re: Kill the Dead
by Steve Rogerson 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

Nico said: "Yeah, I've looked for that one, but haven't yet found it. Anyone know where I can get it?" I searched on the web and found a US bookshop selling it and bought it mail order. You might have more luck with Sometimes After Sunset by Tanith Lee. This is two books in one, the second being Kill The Dead. The first is Sabella, or the Blood Stone. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] a Christmas game
by Ellynne G. 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

These may be more nightmares in some people's view, but here goes- Avon and Cally - Whatever plot twists necessary for the two of them to finally work out their relationship to _my_ satisfaction (oh, wait, does that make it my wish . . . ? OTOH, all Cinderella ever asked for was to have a chance to go dancing. Poor kid probably never even saw her godmother's embellishments coming. So, fariy godmothers have this kind of latitude). Avon and Blake (PGP) - Survival, renewed friendship, and warm fuzzies all around (these are high caliber wishes, right? Reality checks not a problem?). Tarrant - Zeona lives. They go off and rule her father's planet together, incidentally defeating the Federation with her father's fleet while they're at it. However, if I had to do something for the others - Dayna - Discovers her family survived (the Chengans, who picked them up along with Servalan, were able to revive them [they were only mostly dead, not all the way dead], but Hal either knew better than to trust them and led a breakout, or the back to nature tribal types rescued them in an attack, or somebody on Liberator created a distraction by deciding to voice their high fire power distress at the Chengans lack of peace on Chenga, good will towards sentients. At any rate, a situation developed where he and Lauren left intact). Gan - After coming to down in the tunnel, he finds an emergency escape exit (that Servalan was cut off from), leaves, and opens a floral shop on Destiny (after winning a big chunk of cash in the "Things to do with large amounts of dried fungus" recipe contest [it was actually part of the data file Avon took from the Lost's planet in The Web, listed under "Things to do with the large fungus in space when it's no longer trapping ships," but Gan didn't feel it was unethical to submit it as his own under the circumstances (see Galactic Copyright law #4452-24-009, Proper Ownership of Ideas Lifted from Lost Civilizatations with No Known Survivors]). Vila - Joins AA (I suppose someone will suggest this is Avons Anonymous, but that wasn't what I was thinking of). Soolin - I'm really out of wishes but (in my alternate identity as Good Witch of the BBC) I point out that she has always had the power to return to the idealic family farm (live family included). All she has to do is click her hair accessories together while reciting "There's no plot like AU, there's no plot like AU." Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: [B7L] Tony Attwood
by Ellynne G. 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:21:22 EST Carolyn772(a)aol.com writes: > I was incredibly surprised to go to abebooks.com and find NOT ONE > copy of Afterlife. (And we're talking an association of 8800 used > book dealers!) > > I can only assume that everyone who ever had a copy burned it.... > <g> > I usually try interlibrary loans as a first resort. Without that, I might have actually forked over real money for books that, as it turned out, made root canals look like pleasant experiences. From the little I've heard of Afterlife, I'm wondering if it doesn't fall into that category. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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RE: [B7L] Accidental avatars
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

Julia Jones wrote: > There are non-Avon avatars out there - my favourite so far is > the Blake avatar in C S Friedman's Coldfire trilogy Do you remember the names of the books? My library has five C S Friedman books; not sure which sequence to order them in. And are there some good Vila avatars out there too? BTW when I was searching for B7 books at amazon.com, some about a detective (I think) called Jenna Blake came up. Is this coincidence, is the author just using the name, or is she Jenna? Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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Re: [B7L] Accidental avatars
by Illandri2＠aol.com 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

Julia Jones <julia.lysator(a)jajones.demon.co.uk> writes: > There are non-Avon avatars out there - my favourite so far is the Blake > avatar in C S Friedman's Coldfire trilogy Damien Vryce. He is wonderful, isn't he. I got a quarter of the way through the book before it hit me. My family was a little surprised when I shouted, "It's Blake!" I'm glad I wasn't just imagining it. <g> Zenia

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Kaldor City
by Julia Jones 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Have just finished listening to Kaldor City: Occam's Razor. It's bloody brilliant, in spite of what I think is the hammiest performance I've ever heard from Paul Darrow (and that's saying something). I'll write a proper review when I've got time. -- Julia Jones "Science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. It is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - The Science of Discworld

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RE: B7 spin-off books
by Andrew Williams 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Nicola asked: >Jacqui wrote: >> Does that American detective story with 'a group of names' >> deliberately borrowed from Blake's Seven count? > >Which one's that? Do you have any details? How close are the names? Are they >recognisable as characters too? US crime novelist Barbara Paul has written several novels based on her character, Marian Larch. Her friend Carl Holland is based on Avon and there are a couple of B7 references in the books. In one book (Fare Play?) she went B7 crazy and named characters, streets, businesses, etc, after things and people in B7. The book is dedicated to the "Avon-without-guilt" gang.

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Scorpio Attack
by Helen Krummenacker 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

P.S. I had my vactation setting on, but am resetting my seller account. Should be available within 36 hours. :)

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