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Twenty years ago...
by kevs -Kevin McCully 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

Hi all, Twenty years ago, on the 21st of December 1981, at 8pm, the screen fade to black. Then appeared the familiar BBC 1 globe, and the speaker gave voice... "And now on BBC 1", said the female announcer, "The last ever episode of Blakes 7." I remember it well, and how my heart sank to hear those words. So i invite you all to join with me in moment's quiet reverence for our heroes... ********* To the tune of "American Pie", By Don Maclain " Long, long time ago, I can still remember how that programme used to make me smile. I used to turn off all the lights, And watch their interstellar fights, And then i would be happy for a while. But late December made me shiver, When that female voice delivered Bad news from the speaker: It couldn't be much bleaker. I don't recall just how i felt, As i watched their dreams of freedom melt. Their lives were done; the blow was dealt. The day Blakes 7 died. So bye bye to the Scorpio crew. Fought for freedom for the masses 'gainst the wrath of the few. Flew to Gauda Prime for a final try, Singing This'll be the day we all die." ****** If anyone cares to complete this, or rewrite, feel free. Cheers, and Seasonal good wishes to you all, kevs ===== "Under an Aussie sky..." http://www.southernsky.fsnet.co.uk "afterglow", http://www.afterglow.fsnet.co.uk Kevin C McCully "The world is what you make it". __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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RE: [B7L] One Ring to mindwipe them all....
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

Anna Simpson wrote: > Excuse Me, Have You Seen My Plot? > by AnnaS > > Vila was willing to admit that their luck was not always > good. (snip) > Avon strolled round to the head of the great Council table, > to stand beside > Elrond. He spent several seconds contemplating the Ring, > which lay upon > the table before the Elven Lord, then he looked up, and said, > "Why do we > have to walk all that way? Why don't you put it in a box and > get one of > those giant talking eagles to fly over to Mordor and drop it > in the volcano for you?" Oh, I *love* it! Does anyone else remember a story called 'Dragonrider' in an old zine published by the Vilaworld people? I bought it second-hand a few months ago. I can't remember the author's name, but it has a wizard drawing Vila back in time to open the locks on a dragon's lair for him and some dwarves. Very funny. Avon's solution reminded me of the scene where Vila objects to walking all the way there, which will take weeks. He asks the wizard to use a teleport spell. At first they are all outraged - a quest *needs* a long journey to make it a quest; getting there quickly is cheating - but Vila is stubborn and the wizard gives in. There's another nice scene where Vila shoots some goblins (I think) with his Scorpio blaster, then nearly faints of fear, but gets a lot of respect for his 'magic use' which is so powerful it has obviously almost exhausted him. Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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Re: [B7L] One Ring to mindwipe them all....
by Sally Manton 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

Meredith wrote: <So, last night, my subconscious suddenly presented me with the following question.... Suppose that the series 2 B7 crew suddenly finds themselves brought before the Council of Elrond. (Okay, if you must know *how*, assume some high-level intervention by the Valar, or maybe even Eru. And if the Liberator's in orbit around Middle Earth, assume the teleport's on the blink as usual -- otherwise it's all too easy.)> The mental pictures here are extremely appealing BTW ... <So -- who's the Ringbearer?> Gan. Actually, Gan's the only one through the whole 4 seasons I'd give it to. The others all have far too strong an over-riding mission (Blake, Cally, Dayna), or are all *too* fallible to be able to resist. Or both :-) Best of all (sorry, everyone but my fellow enthusiasts!) Jarriere. Come on, he even looks a bit like a hobbit!!! I thought of Vila in the Sam role, which is appealing but just doesn't strike me as likely, so maybe Cally (or if Jarriere's the Ringbearer, Gan could be Sam). <How do they get across Zirak-Zigel, or into and through Moria?> Presumably on foot (and oh, the complaining there'd be!!!) Are they allowed to take proper weapons (otherwise this Quest would come to a screaming great halt round about 2 pages *after* the Council :-)? And Orac? <Do they, in fact, manage to destroy the Ring? Do they live through it?> Blake might end up killed in the fighting (and Jenna and Avon, since they'd almost certainly be *with* Blake). Vila would somehow manage to survive, he survives everything. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Gold
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

The answer to my trick question (if anybody wishes to 'borrow' it for quizes etc) is that a pound of feathers is heavier than a pound of gold (and other precious metals and jewels) because one uses 'ordinary' avoirdupois pounds (of sixteen ounces) and the other uses troy pounds of twelve, lighter, ounces. Would this bit of information amuse Orac? Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Re: [B7L] Accidental avatars
by Mac4781＠aol.com 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

In a message dated 12/17/2001 9:16:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, avona(a)jps.net writes: > Is there anyone good at spotting non-Avon avatars who'd like to weigh in > on this? Not much free time now, but Tarrant avatars abound. The archetype is the free-spirited hero/knight-errant/wuxia. Important values include honor, loyalty, and individual justice. The archetype can (and often does) operate outside the law. There are a few lines in the book "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon--A Portrait of the Ang Lee Film" that could be a blueprint for Tarrant: "Like the Arthurian legends of Europe, the wuxia promoted a conception of knightly virtue. The roaming hero was not only strong and skillful; he or she also had an obligation to right wrongs, especially when the situation seemed dire. The hero fought for yi, or righteousness--not for rights in the abstract or for society as a whole, but for fairness in a particular situation--usually seeking retribution for a past wrong." Carol

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Re: [B7L] RE: B7 spin-off books
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

In a message dated 12/19/01 9:33:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, mistral(a)centurytel.net writes: << I would be considerably gentler if we were talking about a beginner instead of a supposed pro; but I've come around to the opinion that when one put's one's art in the public eye, one had darn well better be able to take criticism. And that goes quadruple when one is expecting the audience to pay money for it. The arts need to be subject to peer review in order to maintain credibility, just as science is. I suppose I think that honesty is kinder to everybody in the long run. For one thing, there is no way for the artist to correct problems that s/he isn't aware of; for another, the public shouldn't have to suffer incompetence if they have a chance to avoid it by being told the truth. >> The internet has created some peculiar circumstances, in this respect. I know of a couple of instances where pro series scriptwriters are hanging around on fannish mailing lists, in search of egoboo and self-promotion. It gets sad when they inevitably collect a bunch of sycophant fans who try to shield these demi-celebrities from any possible critique of their work. In the case of STARGATE SG-1, it's particularly sad. The 'good' writers departed about 3 years ago, to be replaced by a couple of untalented individuals who have actually confessed that they have trouble writing for 2 out of the 4 main characters. The upshot of their efforts is that one of those main characters has quit, a second isn't going to be on the show 1/3 of the time next year, and the fans are actually sorry the series has been renewed for a 6th season. The scriptwriters, unhappy at the fan feedback online, have actually taken to haunting the lists in the guise of anonymous fans, 'shilling' and praising their own work. It's very sad. Leah

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Accidental avatars
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

Is it my own Avon-centric p.o.v., or is there a reason it seems that Avon is the easiest to find 'avatars' of in other fiction, followed, probably, by Vila? I'm thinking it is just the brooding INTJ male appeals to writers. Snape from Harry Potter; Zelgadis from The Slayers; all the deliberate avatars created by fans in tribute; Mr. Darcy; and I can't remember how many others I've spotted. In contrast, Blake seems more difficult to find eqivalents of, possibly because he is less of a type? He's often compared to Robin Hood. Maybe King Arthur could be another avatar. Vila is an Artful Dodger, and can be found in lovable rogues throughout many stories. Dayna is of the Diana/Belephe female huntress type, which is avatared fairly infrequently these days. Is there anyone good at spotting non-Avon avatars who'd like to weigh in on this?

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Re: Accidental avatars
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

> Snape is him, but Avon was rather clearly written >first. Talking of Snape, a friend tells me that Alan Rickman wears black silk pyjamas in the current West End production of Private Lives. (Do I mean Private Lives? Which ever Coward play has Elyot and Amanda in it.) She also tells me that he doesn't wear black pyjamas (unless they're under his dressing-gown) in the Harry Potter film, but my hopes are raised. Surely, now J. K. Rowling knows that Alan Rickman is playing him, she will include a Snape-in-black-silk-pyjamas scene in a subsequent book? I believe I remember him wearing a nightshirt when he was up in the middle of the nigiht before. I don't know that the color or material was specified, however... I *like* the idea of Severus in black silk.

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Re: [B7L] Gambit odds
by Ellynne G. 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:54:09 +0000 Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson(a)mcr1.poptel.org.uk> writes: > Just been watching Gambit. The Big Wheel is basically roulette. Vila > is betting on single numbers. The odds at roulette for single > numbers > are about 30 to 1. Vila at one point has 0.5 million credits, then > four million credits and finally five million credits. This doesn't > work unless he's gambling only part of his winnings each time. The > only reason he would do that would be if Orac could sometimes get it > wrong. Yet we know he has six straight wins at least. All this > doens't > add up. If I had to make a theory, Orac understood Avon's instructions to be how to _successfully_ pull off the scam. This meant not just winning but winning and one of them getting out alive with the money (I'd say all of them, but then Avon's letting Vila play speed chess would be partly based on Avon believing this fit in with Orac's calculations, greatly reducing the chance to discuss Avon's moral failings in risking Vila's life). Anyhow, Orac might have figured better survival odds for them all with a less there's-no-way-they-can-be-doing-that-something's-rigged strategy. So, Vila is instructed to hold some back, make mixed bets, or make bets with less dramatic odds (so much for red to win or possibly some bet variations that haven't been invented yet in our time). After all, if they'd been more suspicious, Vila might have just been jumped in a dark alley instead. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: [B7L] Gambit odds
by Jerry Davies 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

Don't forget, Orac was under the influences of "molecular reduction" so may not have been as sharp as he usually would. At 19/12/01 16:54:00, you wrote: >Just been watching Gambit. The Big Wheel is basically roulette. Vila >is betting on single numbers. The odds at roulette for single numbers >are about 30 to 1. Vila at one point has 0.5 million credits, then >four million credits and finally five million credits. This doesn't >work unless he's gambling only part of his winnings each time. The >only reason he would do that would be if Orac could sometimes get it >wrong. Yet we know he has six straight wins at least. All this doens't >add up. > >-- >cheers >Steve Rogerson >http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson > >Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent >Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 >http://www.smof.com/redemption > > > > >

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