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Re: Re: [B7L] Names [was Self-insertion]
by Ellynne G. 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

Not to bore anyone with my name opinions again, but I still think it's interesting Soolin has a Chinese name. The ethnic mixing implications are fairly interesting and one of the few good hints about this future history. OTOH, maybe she was just renamed by her family's killers. And I _still_ think it's interesting that Kerr can have the same root as the 'ger' half of Roger - meaning Blake and Avon's first names really do seem to make them two halves of each other (and interesting halves as that since the 'Ro' means noble and the 'ger' means spear). Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Fanfic character Names - Consonants Fist
by Alison Page 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

Meredith has kindly told me - >It's been a long time since I last read "The Dispossessed," but surely it was >"Shevek". Cripes, thanks. I hope you don't mind me posting your correction to the list, as I am the one who has made a mistake. I am certain you are right. I have a very poor memory for names at the best of times. Perhaps I was subconsciously influenced by David's imaginary example. BTW re 'Vila' didn't somebody tell us it was a word for an elf in some Slavic language? I forget. A female tree spirit? A

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Re: [B7L] Re: Fanfic character Names - Consonants Fist
by Alison Page 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

>David >Here is a suggestion you might find useful for generating sf names: >Arrange the consonants in some sort of order from 0 to 9, pick a number, >convert the digits in said number to consonants, then insert vowels as >appropriate. That's the method the anarchist collective on Tau Ceti use to generate their names in Ursula Le Guin's novel 'The Dispossessed'. A very readable SF novel about politics, for those who like that kind of thing. It presents two competing political systems - capitalist and socialist/anarchist, from the point of view of a physicist who defects to the capitalist system.There's a short story too called 'The day before the revolution' about the revolutionary leader, Odo. I would recommend these stories for those who like the political aspects of B7, because she presents both systems in complex shades of grey. BTW the physicist's name generated by that numerical system is 'Kedek'. Alison

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Re: [B7L] series 5
by Marian de Haan 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

Jacqui wrote: >Following the recent discussion about S5 - perhaps the only way for a TV series to have been done would be to 'do something completely different' - rather than the same mixture of 'rebels fighting the Federation and each other, and occasionally meeting interesting sentients and others.' > >Any ideas for such a 'completely new angle'?< They could have had Avon and anyone else who survived change sides and join the Federation. Considering Avon's ambiguity it should have been possible to keep the audience guessing until the very end whether he'd really changed his allegiance or was now trying to bring down the Federation from the inside. Marian

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Chris Boucher pic
by Steve Rogerson 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

Does anyone have a photo of Chris Boucher we can use for the next Redemption PR? Maybe someone took one of him at Deliverance. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] series 5
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

In a message dated 1/1/02 5:10:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, mariandehaan(a)chello.nl writes: << >Any ideas for such a 'completely new angle'?< They could have had Avon and anyone else who survived change sides and join the Federation. Considering Avon's ambiguity it should have been possible to keep the audience guessing until the very end whether he'd really changed his allegiance or was now trying to bring down the Federation from the inside. >> If they were typical of what happens to a popular SF or Fantasy show today, this is what would happen: With the intent of dumping the previous fans and obtaining the highly desirable male teen demographic (the one with loads of disposible income and no sales resistance), all previous fans would be forgotten. Soolin and/or Dayna would be squeezed into a black leather catsuit and made the butt-kicking chick who is now the focus of the show. No more complex, character-driven scripts will be accepted; all will be rapid-fire action, action, action with staccato editing and close-ups. Aliens that are either outrageously ugly or incredibly sexy will be the only guest stars. Intellectuals will be relegated to an occasional scene at the beginning or the end of the episode--if there's time. ORAC will become a cool videogame box. All commercials will then market mountain dew, fritos, Old Navy clothing, Sega, Taco Belle, and any other product the desired demographic can easily be made to part with, the commercials populated by slovenly clothed, vacant-eyed examples of their contemporaries. The show will be renamed BLAKE-X. Leah

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Re: Fanfic character Names - Consonants Fist
by seven＠gaudaprime.com 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

Sally >>and that brings us to another point, names. How do people go about >>picking/creating names, Leia > With difficulty. It's something I find a pain in the backside. I > tend to modify ordniary real-world names or recombine bits of two or > more different ones. Respell things. My Welsh names book has been > used to death - mostly respelled. David Here is a suggestion you might find useful for generating sf names: Arrange the consonants in some sort of order from 0 to 9, pick a number, convert the digits in said number to consonants, then insert vowels as appropriate. One system and mnemonic I use arranges the consonants as follows: 0 Z, C, S, Ts, Dz (Z for zero) 1 T, D, Th (T contains one down-stroke) 2 N, NG (N has two strokes) 3 M (three strokes) 4 R (last letter in fouR) 5 L (Latin for fifty) 6 Sh, Ch, Zh, J (no easy mnemonic) 7 K, G, Kh (K is a seven leaning against a wall) 8 F, V (Hand-written lower-case F looks like an eight) 9 P, B (P looks like a mirrored nine) Now pick a number: 74217; convert to consonants: K R N T K; and insert vowels: KRiNToK. This gives Mr. Krintok's surname. Once the basic material is discovered, the name can be tweaked as appropriate, and meanings inserted. As for the name Servalan, I think of it as coming from serf: most everyone is her serf / servant; she is a serf to her outer nature, and so on. Also, a clue is given in Gambit that the name Servalan is related to Service, when Krantor pauses in the following sentence: Krantor: What is this life if we cannot be of some service to our fellows? DC

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Re: [B7L] Re: B7 names
by Sally M 31 Dec '01

31 Dec '01

Meg wrote: "Looking at my latest Baby Name book: Vila: (Czech) wilful. A form of William." I like that - he *is* in his own way (Shadow, anyone?) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: [B7L] Re: B7 names
by Meg 31 Dec '01

31 Dec '01

> Neil wrote: > > Nico wrote: > > > I can't pick what language Vila Restal would come from. > > > > According to my pocket Russian-English dictionary, 'vila' means > 'pitchfork'. > > Hey, interesting, though I doubt they knew that. Maybe if it meant > picklock... :-) Can't see Vila as a son of the soil though. Me either. but 'picklock' -> 'lockpick'... would have been fate for the poor child. ;) > It's also a Hispanic surname in the US (e.g. Bob Vila). But I doubt Terry > Nation chose it for that either. Maybe he meant it as a future version of > William, or was thinking subconsciously of villains and arrest... Looking at my latest Baby Name book: Vila: (Czech) wilful. A form of William. On the other hand, most *short* names have probably turned up somewhere sometime. Even if the writer invents them, chances are that someone else came up with them before them. Especially if they're variants of a common current name. Soolin I haven't found anywhere though. Meg.

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Re: [B7L] Blake's 7 and Stargate
by Sally M 31 Dec '01

31 Dec '01

Dana wrote: <....except that one of Blake's innumerable problems is that Blake's chain of command extends to exactly one individual: Cally. Nobody else really accepts his legitimacy as a commander, and he's certainly in no position to enforce it.> Theoretically, maybe, but it's more that they don't accept the importance of his political agenda. The fact (rather painful if they let themselves think about it) is that for all Jenna's "we don't take command" - they *do*, they do what he says just about all the time. You can't claim that "nobody else really accepts his legitimacy as a commander" if they all obey him anyway, even when they don't want to, even when - as in Voice - they *know* it's a bad idea (if that's not legitimacy, it's a pretty good fake :-)) I agree that it's a short chain of command - Blake rules and there *is* no second right up until the end. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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