Blakes7 March 2001

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fascists...
by Nathan Hook 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

Sorry, neither the Brits nor the Germans nor anyone in recent memory invented fascist regimes. In fact, fascist regimes are all the rage in many SF books, many, many of them written by American authors long before B7 ever appeared on the scene. Said Annie... But I believe facism was invented, or at least appeared in Italy...prior to the second world war obviously, I forget the sate it roughly emerged.... Nathan... drambuie = serious hangover. ps: That was a champion explanation of Britishness in B7 there Neil. 'Dudu' said nothing, as/Her talants were of the more silent class.'Byron. ------------------------------------------------------------ Free, BeOS-friendly email accounts: http://BeMail.org/ love and pixels .:. http://dieselsweeties.com/

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RE: [B7L] Re: slash
by Louise Rutter 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

Steve R wrote: >I don't think Jenna, >Cally or Soolin give any hints of their sexuality, but Dayna does show she likes >men sexually, but again no evidence that this is exclusive. I think there are strong enough hints about Jenna's past with Tarvin to assume that that she isn't exclusively lesbian. Soolin has her thing with Dorian, of course, but that seems to be part of a business arrangement and doesn't necessarily tell us that she goes for men the way I see it. Louise

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Hello/Redemption
by Nicola Collie 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

>The ruler of the universe is here. :o) Hello, Mother! >I would like to add what a fab time I had at Redemption and speaking to >Gareth earlier this evening he had a fab time too, it was well organised and >fun place to be. Hear, hear! I've just today got the post-masquerade photos developed - what an elegant First Family we make Nicola

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Re: [B7L] Cadbury bars...(and eggs)
by M 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

Have you tried the chocolate orange Cadbury's eggs? yum, yum. Anyway back to B7 - Calle said something about the chocolate being cheap and filled with suppresant drugs. If you look at Gold and the passengers who are doped, I dont think they'd have cared if they ate cardboard. I can imagine food being a form of horrible looking goop - please sir can I not have any more. Why waste time or thought when the people are too doped to care? M. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/

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Re: [B7L] Re: Propulsion of Spaceships
by Mac4781＠aol.com 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

David wrote" > Whatever it was, it could have been turned around and used as a weapon I just wanted to say thank you very much for such a comprehensive compilation of references from the series. I intend to print it out and put it in my fanfic resource folder. Carol Mc

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Re: [B7L] Science Fiction and Political Reality (Long - was Brit-char-speak)
by Sestina94＠aol.com 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/3/01 1:02:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, dshilling(a)worldnet.att.net writes: << Throughout human history, violence has often been valorized--the difference between a "resistance group" and a "gang of terrorists" depends on who's commentating and how successful the effort was. Very True, Dana. >(A big aside here: This move, for any of you American > lefties out there, seems to echo the old Communist Party USA's late 1930's > and early 1940's "popular front against fascism" in which the American > Communists -- who were the only real organized force actively fighting white > racism on the streets as well as in the courts -- actively supported American > National interests during the war and even adopted patriotic rhetoric. But, like the Nazi-Soviet Pact, it was a piece of opportunism that led many to give up on the motivations of the CPUSA. Yep, I think opportunism is the right word for it indeed. Political Bankruptcy could be another applicable phrase.... >Blake didn't blow up > Star One, so it seems at some level that all of his actions of armed struggle > against the state (i.e., blowing up stuff) does amount to little more than > isolated acts of "terrorism." In a sense, though, the Andromedans did his work for him. >> Hmm..Never thought of it this way until you posted this. True, I guess, though I'm not sure I agree with the implication that Blake was in some ways allied with the Andromedans, though to be honest you are correct -- they both wanted to destroy the Federation. Still, Blake wanted to do so for purposes of liberating humanity. The Andromedans presumably wanted to enslave and dominate humanity. Now if Blake had allied with the Andromedans (like Travis did) that would be some serious opportunism, not to mention moral bankruptcy. Which makes Blake a true freedom fighter in my eyes because he doesn't sink to such opportunism. However, I must admit that I can't say the same thing about his attempt to unite with Terra Nostra in "Shadow" which even Gan has the good sense and humanity to see as a bankrupt political move. (But hey, those Andromedan kitchen colanders could have greatly benefited from the Liberator's technological sophistication.) Pat C. PS: Why am I posting so much? Fear not, just a minor adjustment in the dosaging of my medication. It'll wear off soon and it's back to lurking....

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Re: Out of the frying pan (was Re: [B7L] Horizon and
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/2/01 8:19:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, bragan(a)aoc.nrao.edu writes: << (I could, however, be easily persuaded to smuggle peanut patties out of New Mexico in exchange for suitable quantities of fanfic. :)) >> Hmmm. Maybe I'll do that Bizarro story about the Ogodile Hunter and his world a bit sooner. Dayna and her crush and all... Leah

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Re: Re [B7L] PWP (porn? what porn?)
by Tavia 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

Mistral: >I may have to dispute the chocolate. My understanding >is that chocolate causes _some_ of the same changes in >brain chemistry that substances more generally considered >addictive do - elevated endorphins, and serotonin too, >IIRC (makes a lovely pain-killer). The brain wants more, >so it forces chocolate cravings. I'd call that an addiction, >if a very mild one. My earlier point exactly. Speaking as an ex-chocolate addict, however, I'd query the 'mild'. (I had to give up eating chocolate at all some years ago when my daily chocolate intake threatened to go from two Mars bars to three.) In so far as any of the B7 material (written or pictorial) can be considered pornographic, it is never *physically* addictive, so comparisons with certain drugs, nicotine or chocolate are unrealistic. Tavia

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Re: Out of the frying pan (was Re: [B7L] Horizon and
by Betty Ragan 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

Redemption) Repsonding to Mistral <leah wrote: > < Have you ever tasted peanut patties? Flat, pink, sugary discs chock full > of those cheap peanuts? I've only once managed to find them outside of > Texas and New Mexico, but those things are Heaven on Earth. <snip>> > > Thanks for the head's-up. If I'm ever out that way, I'll seek them out > (although goddess knows what I'll chew with, anymore). I'll reserve > judgement on altering my statement until then. Yeah, I'd advise reserving judgement on that one... I've only tried this particular "delight" once, but I found it almost uneatable. And I *like* peanuts. (I could, however, be easily persuaded to smuggle peanut patties out of New Mexico in exchange for suitable quantities of fanfic. :))

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Tavia 03 Mar '01

03 Mar '01

Neil wrote: >It is a state of mind that makes B7 British, and it happens to >be*my* state of mind, which means more to me than the >Union Jack, Her Maj, Cadbury's Creme Eggs or driving >on the left. I don't appreciate anyone trying to dispossess >me of it. Least of all because it's the strongest connection >that holds me to the series itself. This seems hard to debate in this forum, as the one thing we've all got in common is in some sense liking Blake's 7, which implies a common mindset that Neil seems to be calling 'British', but Americans possessing it might choose to give another name. Tavia

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