Blakes7 February 2001

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Space Fall
by Hellen Paskaleva 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

From: Betty Ragan <bragan(a)aoc.nrao.edu> >Dana wrote: > > What I'd really like to know is why Jenna > > knows Avalon and Blake doesn't. >Oh, that one seems easy to answer. >Blake, it seems, has mostly been active on Earth I would think this cpuld not be the main reason, because he restored his popularity shortly after the escape and it seemed (according to the script) that he has been popular not only on Earth, but all around the Galaxy as well. Blake could not know Avalon if she had started her rebel activity in the last four of five years (after his capture and brainwash). This is a good (i.e. sufficient) period for her to "make a name", and he still would not know her. Another explanation includes the brainwashing - when Federation erased Blake's memory, they have been specifically interested in the information about other rebel leaders and groups. I presume that nobody would bother to erase information such as which is the nearest supermarket, say, but *anyone* would take care to make him forget all his previous relations. Another interesting question is why Jenna knows Avalon. And a possible answer is that when *we* met her firstly, Avalon needed transportation to another planet. I assume that wasn't the only time she needed it. And Jenna was the one who did the transport. Hellen _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] fannishness
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/18/01 5:38:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, kat(a)foobox.net writes: << On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 04:52:02AM +0000, Sally Manton wrote: > Is there anyone out there who *does* watch B7 or another show at least > partly (and large-part, please) for one of the minor characters, with little > interest in the majors? >> Yes! I watch 'ALLO 'ALLO every single week because I'm in love with Officer Crabtree. Good moaning...

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Re: [B7L] Fanfic -- a slightly different question
by Tavia Chalcraft 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Thanks for all the interesting responses to my query. I agree with Mistral's observation that it's the quality of the description not the quantity that counts -- though it doesn't answer the obvious next question of how to write the gem-like background description that in a few crisp sentences gives a diverse set of readers a feel for the setting/character. Neil: >Description can also be used for authorial mouthpiecing, >if you're into authorial mouthpiecing (which I am). >I did this quite a bit in A Casting Of Swords .... [examples snipped] >How anyone else actually reads it may be utterly different. While I quite enjoy authorial mouthpiecing, if I'm recalling the right piece, then I thought the background description in this was a touch OTT -- I seem to recall skipping quite a bit while reading, and mentally substituting a cross between the seedier end of the docks in Portsmouth (where I was brought up) and those in Lisbon (pusher-laden). Tavia

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Re: [B7L] fannishness
by J MacQueen 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

>From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net> >So all I can say to you, Ms Shilling, is: Choose your fish. >Mine's a Mako Shark. Are you feeling lucky? Dana doesn't need to feel lucky, she just needs to be tall. Do you need to borrow Servalan's footware, Dana? Regards Joanne There are llamas down there. I've seen them. --Margaret Scott _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: fandom
by Ashton7＠aol.com 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/18/01 9:57:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, dshilling(a)worldnet.att.net writes: << You mentioned the three best ACTORS in the thing--and as for Angel, Angel is a good part badly played, Doyle was a mediocre part well played (which, I suspect, is why they got rid of him), Charisma Carpenter is getting better as an actor, and J. August Richards is a good actor in a disappointing role. >> I think you meant to say in YOUR opinion there. There are a lot of folks out here who happen to like David B. as Angel and think he's a good actor. Doyle was "got rid of" because the actor had a drinking problem. And some of us like the character of Gunn, too. I don't find his role the least bit "disappointing" (although I agree that he's a good actor). It's just like Blakes 7 fans and fandom, you know. Your mileage may vary. Some of us like all of the major characters and the actors/actresses who played them and others have their special favorites and dislikes. But you shouldn't assume that just because YOU don't like a particular actor that it's okay to make sweeping statements indicating that one or another of them is "bad" without stepping on other fen's toes. Annie

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Re: fandom
by Helen Krummenacker 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

> Is there anyone out there who *does* watch B7 or another show at least > partly (and large-part, please) for one of the minor characters, with little > interest in the majors? Buffy. The lead is self-centered and often obnoxious and/or whiney. But Giles is so marvellous. I like Xander. Anya says the most unbelievable things. In fact, I think the entire ensemble is terrific. I'd be happy if the pulled a 'Blake' with her and let the show go on without Buffy if SMG deecided to leave. Angel, similiar. I originally watched it for Doyle. Then Cordy kept developing and now is the best character. Gunn is neat, too. When I was a child, Chekov was my favorite character on the original Star Trek series.

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Re: Our Heroes
by Sally Manton 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Helen wrote: <I always thought that was the point of referring to them that way... it's the sort of Irony the show drips with.> One of the things I do like is that, of Blake's original recruits, the ones that lasted the longest were the two least-obviously and certainly least-enthusiastically heroic of the lot - and that Orac (whose concern for his own plastic hide exceeds even Vila's) is the *only* one we're certain survived the closing credits. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: fandom
by Sally Manton 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Mistral wrote: <I have this vision of Avon and Vila on night duty, arguing over which vis-play to watch on the main screen. Vila wants to see the Matrix. What does Avon want to see instead?> The Spy Who Came in From the Cold. For some reason, neither of them are keen on The Charge of the Light Brigade "Space Fleet to the left of them, Space Commander to the right of them, into the valley of death flew the ... errr ... six ..." _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Adrenaline and Soma
by Helen Krummenacker 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

> In Horizon, Cally gives Vila a shot, > he reacts with great pleasure, and she > has to TELL him that it's adrenaline and > soma--so presumably this is his first > contact. Yet very shortly afterwards, > when Cally reiterates to Blake that they > need a rest, Blake says "What about the > old adrenaline and soma?" and Cally says > that they've "practically been living on it." > Vilakins may be self-administering by mouth; he wouldn't much like needles, would he? And the feel of a injected drug might be different from the same thing swallowed as a liquid-- different absortion rates, you know.

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Re: fannishness
by Helen Krummenacker 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

> In his case, which may well extend to other non-fans, I can think of > several possible reasons for Fan Avoidance Activities: > 4 (admittedly simiar to 3 on Tavia's list) They just feel like Real Life is more important to them. My parents watch and read plenty of science fiction, but would rather visit relatives than go to a Con. They don't criticize my own interest in Cons and can talk SF with my friends (who think they are extremely cool), but they think the word Mundane is slightly offensive and aren't interested in joining Fandom.

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