Ellynne G wrote:
"Jenny Kaye" wrote:
As the local populace wanted to kill Hal, Dayna and Lauren, I think
it's
unlikely that they would have got any help from that quarter.
Sorry, guess I wasn't as clear as I could have been.
I'm thinking anyone going to the aliens on the corner (or the seashore, as the case may be) would have to be pretty desperate with no place else to go. Hence, someone whose tribe or whose main supporters within the tribe had largely been wiped out. Desperation leads to desperate choices and there have been more than a few cases of people in wartime fleeing to a traditional enemy even when they weren't sure of their welcome.
All true, and nicely put I may add, but there is no evidence within the episode to support this theory.
Especially
when it is the Sarrans that Dayna is practising her skills by killing.
Well, since Dayna was no more than a year old when they moved there, I don't think the killing started till later.
No, but the fact that she is killing the Sarrans indicates that she has no fellow feeling for them. The fact that her father allows her to do it indicates that he has no fellow feeling for them either. Therefore that strongly suggests that they have had no sustained, direct contact with them-- or if they did that it has not been friendly.
The
script states that Lauren was a child when she joined the Mellanbys,
there is
no evidence that Lauren was also accompanied by anyone else.
It may be that Hal Mellanby is trusting and confides all to people he barely knows.
It might be a good idea if you went back into the archive and reread the emails between Tavia, Dana, Harriet, Fiona and myself on the subject of Hal Mellanby(in and around the beginning of April-- http://tezcatlipoca.algonet.se/cgi-bin/getbyid.pl?id=46210 is a good one) but basically what we came up with is that he's a hypocrite and a liar.
Both Dayna and her father mention that she has learned, and is
learning,
to
master all weapons ancient and modern. There's no reference in the
script at
all to her learning how from the Sarrans or anyone else.
As I tried to say, this was just a thought. But weapons such as bows, spears, swords, etc. take a high degree of training and skill to become fully expert in their use, rather like various sports or ballet.
Dayna got her practice by shooting the Sarrans full of arrows.
Also, I've never heard of anyone becoming a major expert in one of these fields without someone who could tell them what they're doing wrong and how to do better.
There are many ways she could have learned. From computers, from Justin or some other friend of Hal Mellanby's who turned up for a while (remember she says Justin was "one of the specialist tutors" who came to teach her, which suggests that there were more), watching the Sarrans, her father--if he's an arms dealer then he must have some idea how to use them--in fact Dayna's interest in weapons quite clearly came from her father.
Hal couldn't be that trainer. It's unlikely he would know one offworld or could try and find one on another planet.
If you are an expert in weapons design then you are going to know a lot of people who are in similar fields. Hal knowing some one who was an expert in using weapons seems highly probable to me.
Since the problems in Lauren's adoption had already been pointed out, the
idea
that this person brought Lauren along seemed likely. Occam's razor and all that.
Yes. The simplest answer is the best:-). The simplest answer is that Lauren was kidnapped by Hal from the Sarrans to provide a playmate for Dayna.
Jenny
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Jenny Kaye said:
It might be a good idea if you went back into the archive and reread the emails between Tavia, Dana, Harriet, Fiona and myself on the subject of
Hal
Mellanby(in and around the beginning of April-- http://tezcatlipoca.algonet.se/cgi-bin/getbyid.pl?id=46210 is a good one) but basically what we came up with is that he's a hypocrite and a liar.
Include me out--that may be what you came up with, I don't think he's such a bad guy, and there wasn't any shortage of martyrs or much to be gained by adding himself to their number. (Of course I did pair him up with Kasabi in a story, and I think they made a sweet couple, so I'm prejudiced.)
-(Y)
Dana responded to Jenny:
It might be a good idea if you went back into the archive and reread the emails between Tavia, Dana, Harriet, Fiona and myself on the subject of
Hal
Mellanby(in and around the beginning of April-- http://tezcatlipoca.algonet.se/cgi-bin/getbyid.pl?id=46210 is a good
one)
but basically what we came up with is that he's a hypocrite and a liar.
Include me out--that may be what you came up with, I don't think he's such a bad guy
My recollection was that there was a 3-2 split on the subject. The case against Hal was ingenious, and I regard it as legitimate speculation (cf Dana's interesting suggestion about Gan's woman), but I didn't support it.
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Harriet Monkhouse -
Jenny Kaye