"Iain Walker" wrote
I *did* watch the episode!!!
Good boy :-).
The Way Back
A tremendous first episode that sets the scene for the whole series. We get>insight to how the federation works, Blakes background, indications
that
you can't trust anyone, noone is totally good or bad.
I don't agree. There are some extremely evil people at work in this story, but the fact that they are not directly recognised scares me to death.
Another indication of imperfect
drugging is the public address announcement: "President to answer
questions
on population control". So clearly there are people questioning
authority
and public announcements about it
Or it's just a pretence that you have a say.
- so even the fact that people question
authority is not hidden.
Again, it is just a placebo. They pretend to be one thing, but in fact are something completely different. "Look! We're giving you a forum! Aren't we democratic!" While at the same time hiding the real nastiness that goes on. A bit like the use of "IMO".
This implies that the administration needs some
sort of popular support.
Doesn't always follow. The fact that it drugs its populace, has surveillance cameras everywhere and armed guards, suggests that they prefer control to popular support, assuming there is a difference of course. And control includes propaganda and the appearance of good government.
Is it possible that there are elections to some
positions within the administration? So Blake may be fighting a
democracy
(albeit a pretty dodgy one).
Any elections would be fixed. Drugging the populace clearly shows an utter contempt for other peoples right to freedom.
Blake asks Ravella why the administration would suppress us [with drugs]? Is he blind. everyone we see looks drugged. Is part of the drugging
(even
after 36 hours without drugs) stopping him from seeing this?
Yes, but you are talking from the perspective of an outsider looking in. To the ant in the glass tank, everything seems normal. It's only when you kick against the traces that the true nature of the establishment is revealed.
I live in a dome. People live in domes, but it is possible to live outside - they are not surrounded by wasteland, the air is safe to breathe and the water is safe to drink (as Blake and Ravella do later in this episode).
It is illegal to
leave the domes - presumably because then people would not be drugged.
The
doors to outside are also locked (so the drugging isn't perfect) and require special equipment to open them. I wonder what drove everyone into the domes to begin with
Control and all that. It's a Brave New World (Aldous Huxley).
- I am sure the writers want us to believe some global
nuclear or biological war.
No. There were never any atomic wars. The reference to "pre-atomic" in ROD is a reference to the atomic age not an atomic war. The "Galaxy wide atomic wars" crap only appeared in the pre-publicity hand outs for season 4. It is never referenced in the series itself.
Get a job. Blake (and presumably others?) is being "looked after": constant observation and following and faked tapes from his relatives (needing actors that
look
just like his family).
Or computer generated images.
This must be a huge industry in the federation employing lots of people.
As in Orwell's 1984.
You can't trust anyone anymore. Why is Tarrant following them? And why
is
he following them if there are surveillance cameras everywhere? This is another indication that the total control is not perfect - there must be parts of the domes not covered by the cameras so they need to be followed in person).
No. He's following them because he knows where they are going. Outside. There are no cameras outside.
These people are as ruthless as the federation
No, it's a totally different scale. They're risking all their lives contacting Blake, and so are acting out of fear. As you would.
- they have prepared
documents to implicate Blake in their activities. Why would this worry Blake? - the federation watch him all the time and know that he has not been in contact with the resistance.
1/ Blake doesn't know this. 2/ He's gone outside. And in the Federation "looking guilty is all that it takes."
Conspiracy theories galore. Are Tarrant and Foster both double agents? Tarrant asks Foster "what do you think?", to which Foster replies "there's not much left of the man I
knew".
Foster sounds sincere so I don't think he is a double agent, but this
might
be evidence that Foster is being "run" by Tarrant because Tarrant doesn't care what Foster thinks really because he has arranged a massacre! I am even more confused by their wanting to trap Blake if he is a reformed character.
It's the rebels that have introduced the "Blake factor" not the Federation. Though Tarrant would have known about this plan.
When the troopers come in, a trooper looks at Blake in his hiding place
and
does nothing: have they all been briefed to let Blake live (but then the "mastermind" would have to do something to all the troopers so they don't blab about this. This kind of thing is always a problem with too complex conspiracy theories - you have to keep too many people silent!).
A pro keeps it simple. If you watch that scene, the trooper doesn't see Blake in the shadows; his comlink clicks just before he comes into position. If Blake had been with the group when the soldiers attacked, then he would have been shot down like the rest. See also Gauda Prime.
Why are all the bodies left lying around? To provoke Blake?
No one goes outside. And if they do then they are either Federation security or enemies of the state.
After all,
they are waiting for him when he returns to the dome: the expect him to survive!,
Tarrant would have known if Blake had survived or not. He would have checked the bodies.
and get captured! And return to the dome!! He could just have
run off into the countryside.
He could have, but where would he have gone? Better to return home.
Was he saved because he would have become a
martyr?
He was saved by fate. As a dead body, lying in a deserted concrete underground building, he's just another voiceless corpse. Alive though, that's a different story.
Then they try to frame Blake with the child molesting charges. This is baffling if they have caught him with the resistance. Is it the "avoiding martyrdom" problem
That what Morag says.
- i.e. child molesting will put everyone off.
But then why set him up with the resistance?
They didn't.
What's going on???
Perfectly logical plot development if you ask me.
when the lawyer and his S.O. are killed - their bodies are left lying around outside the dome. Won't these bodies be found by the outsiders and
incite
them further?
Oh dear. Are you sure you've just watched this episode :-)? Tarrant says, "I think a transporter accident. Very tragic." Turns to Guard, "See to it will you?"
Interior decorating taste aside, Glynd is concerned that justice has to
be
seen to be done.
Yes he does. What a vile hypocritical piece of shit.
When Blake meets Varon, Varon says "of course not" when
Blake says the charges aren't true. How does he know, or was he just
being
cynical?
He's supposed to be representing him, remember? But the way he says it and what he says later during the same conversation shows that he in fact believes Blake to be guilty.
At the trial, why did Tarrant come to gloat. Very unprofessional!
Because he is a vile piece of shit as well; he knows Blake can't touch him. It's a twist of the knife.
The legal records technician is a character beaureaucrat - listening to music instead of working. Like all small minded people with a little
power
he is actually happy that they do not have the right security clearance. But he is easily bribed. Varon is very naïve - if someone is easy to
bribe
you have just established that they can't be trusted - it then becomes obvious that he will stab you in the back and turn you in to the authorities.
No it isn't. You don't report people who give you money; it makes you look bad.
(or - as part of the conspiracy he was told to take a bribe.).
Blake is political dynamite. You'd want to keep an eye on things until Blake has been deported. The weakness in the plan is the records relating to the children. That's the point they are going to watch.
Also, interestingly, Varon misses something which means that the Federation has been messing about with dates. If the Federation didn't know that Blake was going to go AWOL then there is no way they could have set up the kids with the false memories before Blake's arrest. Therefore the offences "happened" after Blake was brought into custody. It's the perfect alibi for Blake of course, and would prove his absolute innocence and the Administration's absolute coruptness. But of course the authorites will have changed the date of Blake's arrest.
Another thing. They take three children out of school and implant in their minds a horror that will destroy their lives. They then accuse an innocent man of the crime, and say "Justice must be seen to be done." This is a crime of the most horrendous evil. They are mentally raping these children, but for what? Because they can. We are not talking about the sad, pathetic inadequacies of Gan here. We are talking about the ultimate demonstration evil, and its casual banality tells us that, within the Administration, such evil is common place.
New neighbourhood, new friends.
New enemies?
Vila is the first one he meets. Vila
knows Blake the name,
No he doesn't.
This implies that people (even
potential followers) don't know what Blake looks like, so why don't the federation simply eliminate him?
Because like all totalitarian dictatorships the are paranoid. They hate the idea of anyone having a different opinion to their own. And they take it personally as well. They don't just what to kill you. They want to smash you. Make you beg, humiliate you. Tear you apart for having a different opinion. For having the temerity to stand up and say, "no". See Stalinist Russia, see Hitler's Germany, and on a smaller scale, see Horizon the B7 fan club, see the darker elements on Lysator. All these things are within us all. Society, the world, England, The Falkland Islands, Sally Manton, Jenny Kaye, Iain Walker, Blake's 7, Terry Nation, Vila Restal. it's all there. We are all looking into a mirror and seeing ourselves reflected back.
They can have a "Fake Blake" and noone
will know.
They want to discredit Blake and everything he stands for. They only want one voice to be heard, and that is their own.
(However, Jenna looks like she recognises Blake?)
She doesn't.
The
federation has failed to "adjust" Vilas brain too - a kindred spirit for Blake.
Vila
knows Jenna and Jenna knows Vila. Have they worked together before?
If they've met before it would have been in the holding cell, (a pro keeps it simple) however, watching the scene, I don't think they know each other at all. Watch how Jenna stands back during the earlier part of the conversation between Blake and Vila. The only connection is that she apparently fancies Blake.
The way they talk it does not sound like they have just met.
Disagree. I think it does.
At first Jenna is very aggressive, she says to Blake: "Better get used to the idea that noone
out there gives a damn about you.".
She is irritated at Blake professing innocence. A lot of people in prison will profess their own innocence, and yet will be totally dismissive of anyone else who does the same.
Then she goes soft, reassuring Blake
with "don't worry, they'll get it" when discussing the holding order.
She
also reassures him again on the ship. (She MUST fancy him - it is the
ONLY
explanation.)
It's not the only explanation. She also is starting to believe in his innocence as well. Again, another phenomenon of prison life. If elements of the establishment start to put themselves out for you, then by definition you must be innocent. Strange that isn't it? That people in captivity start to believe in the establishment's honesty. That's one of the reasons why jailed policemen have to be segregated. A policeman who has behaved like a criminal is an affront to every crook and con in the joint. He's not playing the game!
Next week: Space Fall
Good. Nice one Iain.
Jenny
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Thanks for your thoughtful comments, Jenny. I agree with most of what you said, but I have a few replies:
Another indication of imperfect drugging is the public address
announcement: "President to answer
questions on population control". So clearly there are people
questioning authority
and public announcements about it
Or it's just a pretence that you have a say.
But why bother with the pretence if you have total control (including population drugging)?
- I am sure the writers want us to believe some global nuclear or
biological war.
No. There were never any atomic wars. The reference to "pre-atomic" in ROD is a reference to the atomic age not an atomic war. The "Galaxy wide
atomic
wars" crap only appeared in the pre-publicity hand outs for season 4. It
is
never referenced in the series itself.
Well, I don't know anything about B7 publicity blurbs, but at the time the series was written/broadcast, the threat of nuclear war was a real possibilty, which would require bunkers to survive and afterwards the planet surface would be too contaminated to live on - so you live in a dome. The series itself does not directly tell us why they lived in domes, but my supposition was based on the context in which it was broadcast. Maybe other list members who were in their "formative years" in the 1970's would like to comment on my perceptions?? It could just be I lived near fylingdales (early warning station for non-UK/Yorkshire types) and was therfore more worried about these things??
You can't trust anyone anymore. Why is Tarrant following them? And why
is
he following them if there are surveillance cameras everywhere? ......
No. He's following them because he knows where they are going. Outside. There are no cameras outside.
Good point! I just hadn't thought of this, Duh!
The legal records technician is a character beaureaucrat - listening to music instead of working. Like all small minded people with a little
power
he is actually happy that they do not have the right security clearance. But he is easily bribed. Varon is very naïve - if someone is easy to
bribe
you have just established that they can't be trusted - it then becomes obvious that he will stab you in the back and turn you in to the authorities.
No it isn't. You don't report people who give you money; it makes you look bad.
1. The technician doesn't have to turn them in for the bribe, but for the enquiries they are making. 2. You can report people who bribe you. For example, give a police officer $50 to not give you a speeding ticket. He takes the money, gives you the ticket and then says you tried to bribe him. Simple. You are in trouble and he isn't.
Another thing. They take three children out of school and implant in their minds a horror that will destroy their lives. They then accuse an innocent man of the crime, and say "Justice must be seen to be done." This is a
crime
of the most horrendous evil. They are mentally raping these children, but for what? Because they can. We are not talking about the sad, pathetic inadequacies of Gan here. We are talking about the ultimate demonstration evil, and its casual banality tells us that, within the Administration, such evil is common place.
I agree. This is very disturbing.
Like some others, one of my favourite things about B7 is the insight into the federation. They aren't bad just because they wear black hats :-), the things they do to people in this episode (and other episodes) are completely apalling. Unfortunately, later episodes/series tend to focus on one blackhatted individual (you know who I mean ;-))
- Iain W.