This woman came back and said:
That the other woman wrote:
: Some woman said:-):
: > >That some other woman said: : > > : That another woman wrote:
You know, there's a reason for attribution lines.
But-- but-- but-- when *Gan* calls people "my woman" it means he's being intimate and tender! Of course it does! So if I call somebody "woman," that means I like them, even love them! Doesn't it?
And other reasons not
to edit quoted material. I did attribute the thread in my post, and if my username doesn't appeal to you my signature is quite straightforward.
What makes you think you were being singled out?
This woman wrote:
: Some woman said:-): Me, in fact.
: > >That some other woman said:
Thanks, that's very helpful. Sally, perhaps?
Who knows?
: That another woman wrote:
And here I have no idea what you mean. Yourself?
No idea at all.
This is why one shouldn't edit out attributions.
I think it's all the more reason why we should.
: > >: <Suppose he'd said, 'a trooper killed Bobby. She meant everything
to
: me. : > >We were to be married. When she died, a part of me died as well.'> : > > : > >: If he'd said that, I'd have checked the tape for what show I'd got on : > >'cause it sure wouldn't be Blake's 7 :-)
: The point I was making was that if the author wanted to be explicit
about
: Gan's connections to this "woman" then he could have easily done so.
That
: fact that he didn't is the point.
And the point some other woman was making is that any other way of saying it would have carried different connotations less appropriate to the setting.
Yes, but I don't agree.
: > >: What Gan says - 'my woman' - is IMO perfectly in tune with the general : > >tone : > >: of the language used in the series, especially by people within
the
: > >: federation itself
: Is that so? Give me some examples then.
You weren't asking me, but here:
SHRINKER: I never saw your woman.
If you think Shrinker was going to be insulting to Avon about Anna at that point, you think he's far braver than I do.
I have already answered this point in another email some days ago, but here we go again. Shrinker is a torturer. You are using the words of a torturer to justify Gan's use of the same words. Which is, if anything, *more* extreme than what I was saying.
But since the comment was about tone, it's all in the ear of the
listener,
and not exactly susceptible to evidence.
So if Gan had said, "Jenna, I am going to stand back and allow the Guardians to terrorise you throughout this episode" but had said it in a nice way you would then discount it?
: You don't spill your emotions to : > >: people when you've spent your life not knowing who you can trust.
: But in Time Squad Gan is saying that he has to stay with the crew of
the
: Liberator because he needs people he can "rely" on. That means he
trusts
: them. Please watch the episode.
Please be a little less condescending.
So, asking you to actually watch an episode before commenting on it is condescending?
Trusting someone on a mission is very different than trusting someone
with
your emotional core.
: Sorry, but as there is not one shred of evidence in the series to
support
: this speculation, I have to reject it.
Well. So much for speculation, period.
Good. Does that mean you are going to stop speculating now?
: > >I think that one of the themes of the series is that nobody is squeaky- : > >clean. I interpret this as being because the Federation, the world : they're : > >in, doesn't allow them to be so clean.
: I think it's more to do with them being members of the human race.
If you like.
Not much, no.
: > >Back to Gan... to me, the *least* morally dubious statement he can make : > >is the one he does. Any elaboration would only give one reason to : > >dissect the statement for emotional falsity or lack of moral soundness. : > >What he says is straightforward and comprehensible, and not, to my ear, : > >sexist.
: Then listen to it again:-)
I hear it quite vividly in my recollection without having to play the tape again, I assure you.
You can "assure" all you like but I still don't believe you, and until you do watch the episode, instead of relying on your "recollection" we aren't going to get anywhere.
I don't see where you get off biting into me with a vicious ad hominem attack and then having the gall to sweeten it with a smiley face.
It adds to the bite :-) It's called irony.
You stink! :)
Yet you're the one defending a murderer!
And your logic is flawed! ;^)
My logic is impeccable.
And, you have absolutely no
reason to attack me,
Oh, I don't know, I can think of loads :-)
except that apparently you're a big flaming asshole.
Arsehole is better, less American.
That Woman
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