Some woman said:-):
That some other woman said:
That another woman wrote:
: <Suppose he'd said, 'a trooper killed Bobby. She meant everything to
me.
We were to be married. When she died, a part of me died as well.'>
: If he'd said that, I'd have checked the tape for what show I'd got on 'cause it sure wouldn't be Blake's 7 :-)
The point I was making was that if the author wanted to be explicit about Gan's conections to this "woman" then he could have easily done so. That fact that he didn't is the point.
: What Gan says - 'my woman' - is IMO perfectly in tune with the general tone : of the language used in the series, especially by people within the : federation itself
Is that so? Give me some examples then.
You don't spill your emotions to
: people when you've spent your life not knowing who you can trust.
But in Time Squad Gan is saying that he has to stay with the crew of the Liberator because he needs people he can "rely" on. That means he trusts them. Please watch the episode.
I've been following this thread, and not one suggested locution to replace Gan's "my woman" line has rung true to me, for exactly the reason Sally gives here.
See my answer the the "reason Sally gives".
This ties in, for me, to
the comment Helen just made in response to the idea that Gan's woman was the trooper's wife.
Helen Krummenacker avona@jps.net wrote:
I had never thought of that possibility, but it seems so very in
keeping
with human nature that I like it very much. It's very plausible and taints Gan with some of the responsibility for what happened to her-- yet another Balke's 7 situation where none of the heroes are squeaky-clean.
Sorry, but as there is not one shred of evidence in the series to support this speculation, I have to reject it.
I think that one of the themes of the series is that nobody is squeaky- clean. I interpret this as being because the Federation, the world
they're
in, doesn't allow them to be so clean.
I think it's more to do with them being members of the human race.
Back to Gan... to me, the *least* morally dubious statement he can make is the one he does. Any elaboration would only give one reason to dissect the statement for emotional falsity or lack of moral soundness. What he says is straightforward and comprehensible, and not, to my ear, sexist.
Then listen to it again:-)
Jenny
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"Jenny Kaye" jennycat55@hotmail.com wrote: : Some woman said:-):
: > >That some other woman said: : > > : That another woman wrote:
You know, there's a reason for attribution lines. And other reasons not to edit quoted material. I did attribute the thread in my post, and if my username doesn't appeal to you my signature is quite straightforward.
"Jenny Kaye" jennycat55@hotmail.com wrote: : Some woman said:-): Me, in fact.
: > >That some other woman said:
Thanks, that's very helpful. Sally, perhaps?
: > > : That another woman wrote:
And here I have no idea what you mean. Yourself?
This is why one shouldn't edit out attributions.
: > >: <Suppose he'd said, 'a trooper killed Bobby. She meant everything to : me. : > >We were to be married. When she died, a part of me died as well.'> : > > : > >: If he'd said that, I'd have checked the tape for what show I'd got on : > >'cause it sure wouldn't be Blake's 7 :-)
: The point I was making was that if the author wanted to be explicit about : Gan's conections to this "woman" then he could have easily done so. That : fact that he didn't is the point.
And the point some other woman was making is that any other way of saying it would have carried different connotations less appropriate to the setting.
: > >: What Gan says - 'my woman' - is IMO perfectly in tune with the general : > >tone : > >: of the language used in the series, especially by people within the : > >: federation itself
: Is that so? Give me some examples then.
You weren't asking me, but here:
SHRINKER: I never saw your woman.
If you think Shrinker was going to be insulting to Avon about Anna at that point, you think he's far braver than I do.
But since the comment was about tone, it's all in the ear of the listener, and not exactly susceptible to evidence. I agree with Sally's observation, though, as I've said.
: You don't spill your emotions to : > >: people when you've spent your life not knowing who you can trust.
: But in Time Squad Gan is saying that he has to stay with the crew of the : Liberator because he needs people he can "rely" on. That means he trusts : them. Please watch the episode.
Please be a little less condescending.
Trusting someone on a mission is very different than trusting someone with your emotional core.
: Sorry, but as there is not one shred of evidence in the series to support : this speculation, I have to reject it.
Well. So much for speculation, period.
: > >I think that one of the themes of the series is that nobody is squeaky- : > >clean. I interpret this as being because the Federation, the world : they're : > >in, doesn't allow them to be so clean.
: I think it's more to do with them being members of the human race.
If you like.
: > >Back to Gan... to me, the *least* morally dubious statement he can make : > >is the one he does. Any elaboration would only give one reason to : > >dissect the statement for emotional falsity or lack of moral soundness. : > >What he says is straightforward and comprehensible, and not, to my ear, : > >sexist.
: Then listen to it again:-)
I hear it quite vividly in my recollection without having to play the tape again, I assure you.
Claudia
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