SLASHER Rita d' Orac wrote:
Subject: [B7L] Re: When "Animals" camouflage and other Stuff
jennycat55@hotmail.com wrote:
{huuuge snip}
She has made this "huuuge snip" because she doen't want to discuss most of the issues I have brought up.
Everyone on Freedom City is by definition a slasher, but on this lyst there are people who
are
not. It's those people that are my concern, the ones you are after. It's petty, it's small minded, but
I
suppose it's power of some kind.
{snipped rest of message}
Actually no - I'm not a slasher, but I am a member of Freedom City.
Then by definition you are a SLASHER.
If I see something on that list that I don't want to read, I don't read
it.
Freedom City is a SLASHER lyst.
Apart from a few misdirected email's that weren't meant for the > >>
list, I don't recall having come across any posts that attacked > >> >> individuals viewpoints the way I've seen them attacked here - such > >> behaviour is not tolerated by the list's administrator.
That is true. Debate on Freedom City is stifled. That "misdirected email" comment though is interesting. On the surface it seems Freedom City has a relaxed atmosphere, but behind people's backs they are all sniping at each other. See?
What I have enjoyed on that list is reading the many different opinions of people on several aspects of B7 that I might > >>
not otherwise have had an opportunity to listen to or discuss (I am >
mostly an active lurker).
She is now stating that there is debate on Freedom City which contradicts what she has previously stated.
I
suggest that you try being a member of that list before you knock it.
Even I wouldn't want to spend too much time on Freedom City. The programming techniques being used there are extremely powerful.
There are several issues that I agree with you and Fiona/Shane/Whoever
on,
Smart. You can see that what Fiona (an anthropologist) Shane (a gay male) and I (???) are saying, come down basically to the same thing, SLASH is a dangerous conditioning device.
most of which I have debated offlist
Why offlyst? Also, this person has never contacted *me* offlyst.
at some time or another with several of my B7 friends (and that > >>
includes my B7 friends who are "slashers")
They are all SLASHERS.
- nobody could
accuse me of being less than seriously opinionated on some of these
topics!
I agree there.
But our debating remains reasonably civilised because we respect the fact
that we are all B7 fans.
These debates never took place.
Despite broadly agreeing with your views on some of the issues you have
raised,
Notice she doesn't specify which views she broadly agrees with. Another conditioning device.
I do not condone some of the tactics
Here's another old favourite. Attack the posting style, avoid the issues.
you/Fiona/Shane/Whoever
Now look here. There is a subtle difference. She is trying to suggest now that Fiona, Shane and myself and "whoever" else may be saying the same thing are all the same person. This equates to basically saying that this view is being held by only one person. Wrong.
have used in raising these issues and then responding to the view > >of
others on this list without allowing for any proper debate of these >
important issues.
She is agreeing that they are important issues. However what she is saying is that my posting style is preventing the SLASHERS from dealing with and stifling what it is I am saying here. However also note that this letter is a very sophisticated programming device. They've upped the ante.
Neither can I condone in any way the actions you/Fiona/Shane/Whoever have
taken or
incited others to take against Annie's website. It is wrong.
Again look what she is saying. Shane left this lyst six weeks ago but now she is saying that he has attacked Annie's evil website. I think Fiona's attack on Evil Annie's website was wrongheaded, but it was not done through malice, it was done through desperation. Fiona is an anthropologist. Secrecy surrounds SLASH because they don't want it debated. They say people who attack SLASH are homophobic, but Shane was gay. He described **SLASH** as **homophobic**. It is.
Please don't assume that you speak for all non slash fans, Jenny -
Interesting that you use my name here.
you don't speak for me.
No I don't, you are a SLASHER. Also note what she is now saying, earlier she said that she broadly agreed with what I was saying, now she says that she doesn't.
Please don't presume to tell me whether or not it is "safe" for>me to be a member of this or the Freedom City list - that decision is
mine
YOU ARE A SLASHER
to make and I choose to stay on both lists.
YOU ARE A SLASHER.
Why do you think this person is attacking me? Why not just ignore me or Killfile me? I'll tell you why. She is trying to discredit what I am saying. They don't what you to listen. This person is a PROGRAMMER.
PLEASE LEAVE THIS LYST AT ONCE.
Jenny
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