Blakes7 June 2001

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Cross-fandom
by Dana Shilling 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

Obviously, lots of people on the Lyst like Harry Potter, and from past messages it's clear that B7 and Buffy fandom overlap to a significant extent. I know that our Una is an ornament to DS9 fanfic, but I haven't seen many Lyst references to the other ST shows. There must also be various Whovians (someone I was trying to turn into a New Soul watched Space Fall for about ten minutes and said "It's like Dr. Who--only better!"). What other cross-fandoms exist, and are we looking for the same thing in our other fandoms as in B7, or for something different or even an antidote (e.g., optimism)? -(Y)

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Re: [B7L] Heroes
by Sally Manton 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

Jacqui asked: <What would the characters' fictional heroes be?> Now why do I think Vila's might be Just William? Turning the question slightly to the subject of preferred reading, can't help thinking that Avon would love Ambrose Bierce's work (yes, the Devil's Dictionary <g> but also the grim little Civil War Stories.) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Cross-fandom
by Sally Manton 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

Penny wrote: <What do you consider qualifies one to be a member of a show's "fandom"? Watching it faithfully? Participating in online discussion about it? Writing fanfic, buying action figures, erecting shrines, making sacrifices?> Ummm ... that makes me a B7-only fan; though I was a faithful view of Dr Who Nos 2 to 5, viewing was as far as I got. I loved Cadfael. I bought all the books. I bought the books before I saw the TV shows, but I loved the TV show more. Does that count? (Of course, 'tis rather hard to imagine a Blake/Cadfael cross, though Certain Crewmembers would look nice in tights). Though I suppose the part of me that is forever 11 years old, and went rather overboard on the Asterix gimmicks in France :-) counts too. I even bought the film, though it's in French and I don't understand a word. Don't care, it's still hysterical - Gerard Depardieu makes Gunn-Sar look subtle. (But I didn't have room for the fluffy toy wild boar, mutter grumble. I wonder what a fluffy toy Og or Brian the Spider would be like?) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Cross-fandom
by J MacQueen 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

>From: Kanna Ophelia <rosemaybud(a)one.net.au> >too many teen girls who think Draco's thinly-metaphorical racism is sooooo >kewl and >*SEXY*!!!! <sparkly eyes> At this point, I can only say I'm glad I've got two Mint Slices and a can of Coke in front of me (afternoon tea - yum, but not healthy at all). I rather think I need them to cope with this... Regards Joanne (finding the idea of Draco Malfoy being regarded as cool and sexy for any reason somewhat bizarre. Better not mention a certain snarly Potions Master, though, had I?) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Cross-fandom
by Kanna Ophelia 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

<returning after a rl-driven break, and carefully deleting everything Eudora has marked with multiple chillies> Depends what you mean by fandom... While I love Harry Potter, for example, I wouldn't call myself a member of the fandom. I belong to hpfemmeslash becuase a friend owns the list, and I may one day get around to writing the Hermione/Fleur story I promised her, but the fandom doesn't appeal to me - too many teen girls who think Draco's thinly-metaphorical racism is sooooo kewl and *SEXY*!!!! <sparkly eyes> The only difference being whether they think his true love is Harry, Hermione or Mary Sue... I tend to stay well away. :) And there's plenty of things I adore but kinda never got involved with on a fan level... Terry Pratchett, for one. :) Or Bad Girls. So, working from actual involvement, fic writing, web site owning and so on... My major fandom for a while was DS9. I think the smiliarities with B7 are reasonably clear, although I have to admit a Cardassian fetish contributed... Of course, DS9 is overall more optimistic and more expensive, but it still has the same... feel... in a way. But currently, I am passionately involved in Pokemon fandom. Team Rocket, not twerp fandom - yes, divisions are policed. <giggle> And while on the surface it couldn't be more different, I think it *is* a similar thing in some ways. Jesse and James are tacky over-the-top dressers, they graviate between desperate plans and half-hearted "Let's dig a hole and see if Pikachu falls in it," token efforts, they sometimes have little victories but overall, if they won, the show would be over... Maybe I just like stylish losers. And, of course, both shows have strong female characters and a fabulous sense of camp. And have cheap special effects/animation. Also, I could compare Vila to James, Soolin to Jesse and Orac to Meowth, thus taking care of three of my favourite characters... Of course, I also love Pokemon for the cute monsters. Harvest of Kairos, anyone? XXX Kanna-Ophelia Femmeslash: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/femmeslash The Pokeslash Playground: www.tvheaven.pokemon.com Diversion Tactics: www.geocities.com/diversiontactics --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using One.Net's Mail Man. http://mailman.one.net.au

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Zines for Sale
by Val Westall 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

Val Westall Hi everyone, Chris (Blenkarn) is not at present on the lists and has asked me to tell you that she has a number of Blakes 7 zines for sale (very reasonable prices, that include second class postage within the UK). Both gen and slash. Anyone interested please drop a line to Chris at:- chris.blenkarn(a)ntlworld.com and she will send you a complete list of the zines. Chris is donating some of the proceeds of the sales of the zines to Amensty International. Thank you. Cheers, Val

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FW: Re: [B7L] Re: Zine lists coming up
by Tavia 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

This didn't seem to go through, so apologies if you get it several times..... Dana wrote re my Case of the Disappearing Fanzine: >Yeah, but that's printzines (not to mention variables in type size and >page count)--even if you just count stories that don't appear anywhere >else, the Hermit Library and Liberated are very large "zines." My guess is that the reduction represents both an increase in Web publishing and a decrease in fannish interest in B7. I don't know if anyone has any figures on the publication or sales of printzines in other fandoms, or for that matter other quantifiable measures of fan interest, such as sales of videos, attendance at cons, viewing figures for the satellite/cable repeats? Although the Hermit library, Liberated and other sites are all great, a high proportion of the stories archived have been previously published in printzines, especially the longer stories. Tavia

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Re: Cons
by Steve Rogerson 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

Helen said: "There's a Helen and a Hellen on the list. Steve, you've been referring to Hellen as Helen." Sorry -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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RE: [B7L] Cross-fandom
by Louise Rutter 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

Dana wrote: >I haven't seen many Lyst references to the other >ST shows. There must also be various Whovians >(someone I was trying to turn into a New Soul watched >Space Fall for about ten minutes and said "It's like Dr. >Who--only better!"). What other cross-fandoms exist, >and are we looking for the same thing in our other fandoms >as in B7, or for something different or even an antidote >(e.g., optimism)? I'm currently writing Highlander the Series fic because I became addicted to Methos - not uncommon <g>. Another enigma who can be read in a variety of ways, not unlike the Snarly One, so the attraction's obvious there. Otherwise I watch a lot of other SF shows (any old rubbish that's going according to Steve K <g>), but the only other fandoms I'm actively involved in are Due South and West Wing - DS is borderline genre since ghosts are canonical, but not really. I don't exactly know myself what the attraction is there - I choose a fun, witty, optimistic little show and then write angst into it. Maybe I just like being subversive :-) Louise

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Nexus
by Steve Rogerson 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

Just received the latest bulletin about Nexus in July in Bristol, which says the price goes up on 8 June. Reg form is at: http://www.enterthenexus.com/reginfo.htm Confirmed guests are: Rene Auberjonois (Odo - 'Deep Space Nine') Sylvester McCoy (Doctor Who) Gareth Thomas (Blake from Blake's 7) Richard Arnold (Star Trek consultant) John Freeman (Creative Consultant/contributor to Titan Magazines) Hans Jenssen (artist of the Star Wars cross sections books) Graham Bleathman (artist of the Thunderbirds FAB cross sections book) Phil Atcliffe (aerospace engineer) Alan Senior (Computer system designer of the Beagle II Mars lander) -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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