Blakes7 December 2001

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Re: [B7L] Neutrotope
by Lisa Williams 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Marian de Haan wrote: >Ot else the prospective buyers of the neutrotope gave her a quick course >in lock picking when they were discussing the deal. Or she'd managed to get a duplicate of the key without Kendall's knowledge. Just because he *thought* he was the only one with a key doesn't mean he actually was. >What I'd like to know is how Sara got that body onto that high shelf. Steroids. - Lisa -- Lisa Williams: lisa(a)eroicafans.org or lcw(a)dallas.net Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://framecaplib.com/ From Eroica With Love: http://eroicafans.org/

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Warlord
by Sally Manton 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Or ... the episode that was on *this* week twenty years ago ... Warlord is for me one of the *great* episodes of Blakes 7 (no Blake, not enough Vila, too much Servalan, way too much Zeeona) but it is wonderful in that it has a unique atmosphere. It's part Jacobean melodrama, where almost *everyone* has their hidden agendas and is 'against' everyone else; and it's part malevolent chess game, Black against Red (if you can work out which is which), but also Black against Black (Servalan betraying Zukan, Zukan literally throwing away his co-conspirator) and - rather unusually - Red against Red. The careful, considered movements of the three most important pieces - Tarrant, Soolin and Avon - is fascinating (it's a pity that Vila is underused and Dayna mere wallpaper, but then more might mean less in this game). Tarrant and Soolin go behind Avon's back (and to to drive a knife in it IMO) by working against the most important member of this alliance that is - as I said - their last, least hope; the prize being Tarrant's new love. It's dishonorable and distasteful, and (being a betrayal driven by a love affair) very, very Jacobean, and it brings with it the seeds of its own destruction, in Avon. When Avon finds out, he does nothing at first - a simple, empty threat against Soolin, which she ignores - but it's more a biding of time until he *can* take a hand. Watch him in that final scene, listen to his measured, over-articulate iciness - he's coldly, silently, but quite deliberately pushing Zeeona into the move she is actually willing to take. And the ending makes it clear that he knew what she would do. It's not just a matter of Zeeona being the new and therefore expendable one; one of the others *might* die, but equally might survive. He knew she'd kill herself, and that for once actually ugly smile at the end indicates to me that he wasn't displeased by it (and Tarrant - from that look at Avon - realised it, but waaaayy too late). And - even better - Soolin supports him. She also knows that Zeeona's going to die. She's just as calm, just as cold. This is where Soolin goes from quite interesting to totally fascinating - the manoveuring between the two men, the calculation in her every move - supporting Tarrant and Zeeona, mocking Avon, pretending to turn on his then saving him, falling back behind him in the shuttle when he's rescuing the others by long-distance, then *staying* there, a little behind, a little to his side, when he's silently pushing Zeeona into that honorable, deadly move. (I can't quite pull off an achoing significance in the fact that she, who at first seemed to be helping Tarrant's new love, then pretends to be Tarrant's new love turning on them, but I'm still working on it). In Warlord, Soolin appears more dangerous because it *does* show she can shift her alleigances, in such tiny, careful steps, without emotion or uncertainty. There's a steely taint of - *something* there, something unfeeling in its calculation, very different from Avon's harsh self-preservation and Vila's soft selfishness. It's what makes me even more sure that she's have been (to coin a phrase) a killer character in any 5th series. In Warlord, there's this Grand Guignol feel behind the space opera sets and flip language. As I said, it's Jacobean in its lack of feeling (Pacey does his best, but the shallow romance sinks beneaths the darker, bloodier currents swirling around) and an air that is poisoned even before Zukan's virus is released. A rather wonderful lead into the Shakespearean episode ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Neutrotope
by Marian de Haan 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Jurgen wrote: >Yesterday evening I watched 'Mission To Destiny' with my partner (a Star Trek fan), who really enjoyed the episode.< A discerning lady :-) (Glad to know I'm not the only one who likes the episode.) >We both wondered why Sara was able to get the Neutrotope when Dr. Kendall said he was the only one with a key. Does anybody have a plausible explanation?< Maybe she was Kendall's secretary and he was so used to her having access to the safe that he simply forgot about it. Ot else the prospective buyers of the neutrotope gave her a quick course in lock picking when they were discussing the deal. What I'd like to know is how Sara got that body onto that high shelf. Marian

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Unusual tribute
by Steve Rogerson 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

The Farscape magazine in the UK has a column from Juliet Blake, the show's executive producer. The column is called "Blake's Heaven". I wonder where they got that idea. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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OT: email blockage
by Kathryn Andersen 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Just a note to say that if anyone's tried to contact me in the last day or so, to try again, because it looks as if all mail sent to me in that period has gone to the great black hole in the sky... (wondering if I should change providers...) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <kat(a)katspace.com> / \ | <http://www.katspace.com> \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

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Babylon 5 vids
by Steve Rogerson 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

While in York this weekend I saw two shops with piles of Babylon 5 videos selling them at three pound each under a buy one get one free offer. On another list, someone has told me they saw the same offer at a shop in Poole. Sounds like a warehouse is dumping lots, so keep your eyes open if you are missing any. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] The Reptile
by J MacQueen 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

Well, it's far too late now, but that reminded me that Josette Simon's episode of Silent Witness was repeated on Friday night. What an organised mind I've got... Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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The Reptile
by Pat Sumner 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

Not that this will make any difference to anyone on the list(s), but I just noticed that the Hammer Horror film "The Reptile" (featuring Jacqueline Pearce) is on TV tonight - at 3am on Carlton Cinema, one of the UK digital/cable/satellite channels. Think I'll set the video... Wildean

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The Past is an Open Book
by Sally Manton 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

Servalan wants to sleep with Blake. ******************* They've been arguing for hours, it seems. All of them. I doubt anyone even knows what it all started over, except that they want to change things, and they aren't allowed to. Servalan wants to sleep with Blake, and Tarrant - well, one of the Tarrants, I'm getting confused as to which is which, it's because they're all brothers, peas in a pod - where was I? Oh yes, Tarrant wants to be the one to shoot Blake. In the back. "No one's going to believe that _Avon_ did it," I was informed. "So what if some people say that's what really happened? If no one believes it what difference does it make?" ******************* I should have known, really - history re-enactments are always more trouble than they're worth. But could I resist? The story of Blake and the Liberator? And by the Gauda Prime West Society for Creative History? Of course I couldn't. <Else, I've told you before. If you want to play an Auron you have to wear the correct corsets.> <Of course Aurons wore corsets, Else, how else could they have looked that thin in pictures? Nothing human could be as thin as Cally.> And the script was pretty good, I thought. They'd tried to research it thoroughly - <Yes, yes, I know, she wasn't human, she was alien. But you aren't - no I am not saying you're fat!> - well, at least as thoroughly as they could, given what little information - and time - we have. But the that's the problem, isn't it? So few facts and so many stories. Personally, I have my doubts about the story about the rescue of Jenna Stannis from the Amagons, but the Professor says it's likely enough - and it _is_ romantic. <Look, Mara, I can't help what your grandfather remembers. The Liberator was not at the battle of Lindor.> And if we don't put it in, people will complain. It would be like leaving out Lord Restal and the Virgin Meegat, wouldn't it? And it is in The Life-Book. If it's in The Life-Book, it _has_ to more accurate than the others. <Why couldn't the Liberator be at the battle of Lindor? Because the Battle of Lindor happened ten years after Blake died, that's why! Just because you want to play Tyce Sarkoff as the heroine of that battle - yes, yes, I know, she _was_ the heroine of that battle, but that battle isn't in this reenactment.> I want it to be accurate - well, as accurate as we can get it. I don't see what everyone's problem is - <No, we can't bring in her speech from that battle and no, I don't think she heard it first from Blake. Yes, it's just the sort of thing he'd say.> - I would have thought that the Life-Book of one of the original Seven was good enough evidence for anyone. Oh god, and now Shiena is complaining. <It's not dull, Shiena.> <Servalan was not dull just because she didn't seduce the hero. Servalan was Supreme Commander of the brutal Space Command and then President of the evil Federation. Presidents of the Federation were not dull.> The problem is, I'm afraid, they really were all so damned conventional. Heroes like Blake and Avon, villains like Travis and Servalan ... just like the legends. I keep wondering if they were _really_ like that, or if we've got it wrong ... <Max, if you wanted to be one of the heroes, you shouldn't have auditioned for a Tarrant. Yes, I know you liked the limp. I'm still trying to persuade Rico that Oleg Gan didn't have a limp.> <Avon doesn't have a limp either, Max. Or a laser in his eye. That's Travis. Yes, only one of the Travises, no, we don't know which one, so yes, I agreed to let them all have lasers in their eyes. No one could tell them apart, anyway according to the Life Book.> - but people like it this way, I guess. They don't like it when we change things and make them different, less heroic, more villainous. They say it's unhistorical, unrealistic. It was a heroic age, and they were heroic people. Not like today - <Shiena, just because Servalan is a raddled old clone doesn't mean she's dull. Yes, she was a raddled old clone. We _know_ that for a fact, Shiena, one of the few facts we do know. Servalan was Commissioner Sleer's sister, and we've seen pictures of Sleer after the Federation fell.> <No, she can't have been a daughter of something.> <Because they looked as close as identical twins. All the sources say so. What other explanation could there be?> I don't know, why does everyone want to either shoot or seduce Blake? Though personally, I wouldn't mind shooting Idrian if he says one more thing about "how come Avon got to kill all the Travises, I don't get to kill anyone?" I've already point out that Roj Blake wouldn't kill people, that was why he's the icon he is. We've no evidence that he killed anyone, have we? <And Davien, you wanted to play Avon so you have to wear white. That's how the audience will know you're Avon. Just be careful not to get blood on it when you shoot the Travises.> I don't know. All they need to do is read the Life Book, and it's all there. ******************* So their real lives weren't as exciting as we'd have liked to pretend they were. The villain wasn't in love with the hero, and they didn't save the galaxy - well, not more than once, and I've read it was really one of the Travises anyway, the one Avon didn't shoot - and if the Gauda Prime West Society for Creative History have anything to say about it, they didn't all die on Gauda Prime. But they were heroes. The Life Book says so. And if you can't believe in Restal's own Life Book, what can you believe in? <end> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Holiday Fanfic!
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

Lots and lots of updates at the Holiday Fan Fiction Archive. Stories from tons of different fandoms (including Blakes 7!) and it's being updated almost daily now. The newest stories added over the last two days are from Stargate SG1, The Sentinel, The Matrix, Highlander and Star Wars. Many other fandoms are represented. The archive is open to all. Send some links or stories along to be added if you'd like to be featured! Also added today is a brand new Christmas Stargate SG-1cartoon by Leah Rosenthal. http://members.aol.com/ashton7/holiday.htm Annie "Bottom line: If you're not telling good stories, people are going to tune out, and they'll see right through the sham." -- Richard Dean Anderson 'The Hollywood Reporter'

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