Blakes7 October 2001

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RE: Re: [B7L] Orbit, Vila and Avon
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

"Pat Sumner" <Wildean(a)btopenworld.com> wrote: >From: "Nathan Hook" <nhook(a)bemail.org> >Subject: [B7L] Orbit, Vila and Avon > > >> The interesting irony was that even if Avon had killed Vila >>and dumped the body through the airlock, the shuttle was doomed >>despite the 73 kilo weight loss. The speck of nuetron material >>was still aboard. A lesson for Avon and his unemotional >>calculating mind. He was ruthlessly prepared to sacrifice … [View More]

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Re: [B7L] FW: Orbit
by Ellynne G. 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 21:51:40 -0400 "Dana Shilling" <dshilling(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > > Never mind that, if you were trading in someone else's virtue you'd > expect > to get a higher price for Tarrant's than Vila's. > Avon may have had to think fast on his feet. 1) Avon assumes Egrorian was not the sort of mad scientist who values the monastic life. 2) His insistance he needs to bring someone down with him is actually a stalling technique while he tries to get … [View More]

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Orbit, Vila and Avon
by Nathan Hook 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Given Vila's reaction to Avon hunting him down on the shuttle, he obviously believed Avon would kill him. You don't persuade people to jump off space craft for the benefit of others. Time was short and Avon had the gun...the threat was real. It was interesting how they kept it a secret between them. Vila refers to the whole incident as being one he wouldn't forget and Avon calmly retorts that you know you are safe with me, the others are unaware of exactly what went on. The interesting irony … [View More]

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Orbit and Hiding - Long.
by Leia Fee 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

This will be a very rambling sort of post about the 'Avon should have been able to find Vila - there's nowhere to hide in a stripped down shuttle' idea. I was thinking about this the other day while I was down the castle hitty-fighty training with the reenactors. (I'd been watching Orbit earlier in the day.) We were playing a training game - 'Combat Hide and Seek' (Much like normal hide and seek but you have to find then kill the people hiding. Then become seekers as well.) and I was the … [View More]last one left hiding. Now it takes about 20 minutes to sweep the castle for hiding places (and that's if you're doing it very slowly and carefully) but it took them over an hour to find me. (Um, the reason I was still hiding for an hour after I was the last person left and had won the game was because I didn't belive the seeker when he was wandering round calling 'Leia you're the last one left, you can come out, you've won. Call me paranoid ;-)) So I was curled up quite comfy, thinking about hiding and searching and the way people approach it and I was coming to the conclusion that it's not whether *you* think it's a good hiding place but whether the seeker thinks so. People will look first in the places they'd hide themselves. And people have different strategies. The people I've played combat hide and seek all use one of three strategies... 1) 'The annoying git'. Doesn't bother to hide properly at all. Lurks just around corners and splats the seeker as they come round. Then legs it to another ambush point. This only works if you're confident that you are better than the seeker - if you can't beat them even with the element of suprise then there's no point using this strategy. 2) 'The tactical one'. Finds a good defensible spot (prefereably with a few mates) and waits. Doesn't matter if it's not a great hiding place the important thing is that you can hold off the enemy for a long time. For preference you find somewhere you can retreat from as well. 3) 'The coward'. Find a really good hiding palce where you won't be found for ages. Doesn't matter if it's defensible or not beacuse you're trying to avoid the fight rather than win it. My favourite tactic when I've feeling lazy and the one that had me waiting for an hour to be found. There's a half filled in alcove that used to be an arrow loop before the ground level changed. You can still get in by laying down on you cabk and wriggling in head first, standing up as you go. Once you're in you have to sit on the ledge and tuck your feet up so you can't be seen from the outside. Once they figure out where you are, you're stuffed but people rarely bother to look there. I am coming to a point... Avon would almost certainly go for strategy 1. He''s not the sort to wait around ro be attacked. And if you look at the tactics he uses when he's searching for Vila, the way he carefully approaches corners in case Vila's the other side of them, it would work very well against someone who was also using the same strategy. Fortunately for Vila he's gone for option 3 and found himself a hidey-hole. If Avon found him he'd have no chance but then the whole point is that he doesn't want to be found. I should think he realises he stands even less chance if he confronted Avon openly. It would never occur to Avon to hide in such a place, where there's no way to defend yourself and no way to retreat if the defence should fail. His mind works very differently from Vila's and I don't think he understands Vila as well as he thinks he does. If he sat calmly and thought about it maybe he'd realise that Vila's tactic would be very different from his own. But he's not exactly thinking very clearly. Heres ends my long ramble on the Psychology of Hiding. Leia [View Less]

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Re: [B7L] Top ten stories
by J MacQueen 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

>From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling(a)worldnet.att.net> >TARRANT: "A red-haired dwarf with bluey-coloured eyes shouldn't >be difficult to locate" (AU Dawn of the Gods) Your next task is to come up with the appropriate Auron saying for the locating of any sort of dwarf... Regards Joanne (now trying to banish the idea of "All I Ever Needed To Know I Learned From The Auronar" from her head) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download … [View More]

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Re: Orbit (and hiding)
by Leia Fee 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

>because he knew Vila would appeal to Egrorian, who seems to 'go for' >slight-built people with big eyes, of either sex. Though how Avon knew >that... hmmm... must have been in some security files accessed by Orac I >guess. Anyway, it worked didn't it? Now I hadn't thought of that. I can see Avon trying that actually. >Wow, a good structural symmetry that I never noticed before (everyone >else probably thinking - call yourself an obsessive, and you missed >that). ;-) … [View More]

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Derelicts (and longish minor ramble)
by Mel Saxby 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

I recently bought Derelicts. It certainly is a challenge, but well worth the effort. Bryn Lantry's singular style is wonderfully distinctive, and I'm looking forward to reading other examples of her work in the future. As far as Top 10s go, I'm still catching up, after many years in the wilderness away from B7. I watched the series on its first run as a teenager and loved it, but fell by the wayside some years later, though I bought the videos when they came out. I was delighted to discover … [View More]

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Top ten stories
by Sally Manton 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Thought of one that - though not in my Top Ten - certainly would come under my heading of a challenging read - Derelicts, by Bryn Lantry (also Puppeteer, if you read slash). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Sinofar and Giroc
by Sally Manton 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Jacqui wrote: <In 'Duel' Sinofar tells Travis not to return but nothing similar is said to Blake - does this mean that Blake is free to return?> Would appear so, although there's probably no reason why he should want to (actually, I have read at least one story where he did, after GP). After all, if there is (as she says) nothing for him to learn, is there any reason why she and Giroc would reappear for him? (Well, apart from the fact that she was obviously rather taken with … [View More]

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Cult TV
by Steve Rogerson 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Cult TV are now selling registrations seperate from hotel accomodation (previously you had to buy a package deal that included bed, breakfast and evening meal). The reason for this is that the hotel is now full. However, this deal may suit people who live in the north west who were a bit miffed at having to pay for unnecessary accommodation. The registration cost is 70 pound for the weekend (still no day memberships). The tickets will be available at the convention itself from 9.30 Friday … [View More]

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Blakes7 October 2001