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helgrind
by Martin Nilsson (saturator) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

I ran the valgrind tool helgrind (multithread bugs) on pike and got several hits just by starting another backend thread. Perhaps someone thread-enabled could take a look?

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Re: Merry Christmas == 1!
by Marcus Comstedt (ACROSS) (Hail Ilpalazzo!) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Ugh, since you asked about !=, that was the wrong line to quote. :-) On the line above: The statement x != x is true if x is a NaN.

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Merry Christmas == 1!
by Mirar ＠ Pike developers forum 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Merry Christmas! Can someone explain this? | /home/xenofarm/xenoclient/pike-7.5/orchid.mirar.org/buildtmp/Pike7.5-20031224-171314/src/modules/Math/testsuite.in:113: | Test 22 (shift 1) (CRNL) failed. | 1: mixed a() { return Math.nan == Math.nan ; } | 2: | | o->a(): 1 Why is that considered a failure?

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C#-like properties
by Mirar ＠ Pike developers forum 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Together with scopes, it could be interesting, though: original example: private int foo; public int Foo { get { return foo; } set { foo = value; } } why not: public int Foo { int foo; get { return foo; } set { foo = value; } } :-)

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xenofarm feature list
by Mirar ＠ Pike developers forum 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

What would it take to get xenofarm to generate such a list as this, http://www.mirar.org/pike_features.html ie, a list where the configinfo features are on one axis and the build machine on the other (and the page is the build version)? Also a page as the normal http://pike.ida.liu.se/development/pikefarm/7.5.xml but with indicators to see if the feature work or not, one page for each feature, to see if you mess up a feature's config test, would be neat.

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yellow...
by Mirar ＠ Pike developers forum 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Can someone enlighten me to what went wrong in this build, http://pike.ida.liu.se/development/pikefarm/result.xml?id=1613_342&pike=7_5 verifylog.txt ends in, | Doing tests in modules/_Image_FreeType/testsuite (0 tests) | Total tests: 149607 (275 tests skipped) | make[2]: Leaving directory | `/home/xenofarm/xenoclient/pike-7.5/orchid.mirar.org/buildtmp/Pike7.5-20031222-165205/build/linux-2.6.0-test9-i686' no failures, no exit 1+, but something left a core so core.txt were created, which I guess is the reason for the yellow mark?

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Pike 7.5 cvs-snapshot "make install" problem
by Alexander Demenshin 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Hi, Just tried to make a test install of recent snapshot, everything was OK (make; make verify) but on "make install" it complains: Bad argument 1. Unknown program: foreach(0) /home/aldem/src/Pike/Pike7.5-20031222-165205/lib/modules/Tools.pmod/Standalone.pmod/extract_autodoc.pike:105: Tools.Standalone.extract_autodoc()->recurse("/home/aldem/src/Pike/Pike7.5-20031222-165205/src/doc_build/src"+[4035],"/home/aldem/src/Pike/Pike7.5-2003122 2-165205/src/doc_build/src"+[4049],0,({"predef::","doc_build","src","doc_build","src","doc_build","src",,,571})) (backtrace skipped) Well, I "fixed" this (adding empty array as alternative in foreach), just to see what happens, and: (lot of "copying from" skipped) /home/aldem/src/Pike/Pike7.5-20031222-165205/src/pike -DNOT_INSTALLED -DPRECOMPILED_SEARCH_MORE -m/home/aldem/src/Pike/Pike7.5-20031222-165205/src/master.pike -x join_autodoc --quiet --post-process autodoc.xml doc_build ProcessXML: duplicate documentation for class _file /home/aldem/src/Pike/Pike7.5-20031222-165205/lib/modules/Tools.pmod/AutoDoc.pmod/ProcessXML.pmod:15: Tools.AutoDoc.ProcessXML->processError("duplicate documentation for class _file") (backtrace skipped) I remember that I tried such an attempt some time ago, and it stopped like this one (at least, that stop was related to autodoc). The problem is that xenoclient doesn't try to make _real_ installation (can it?), hence this problem is not reported. Any clues how to proceed with installation? Is there any way to avoid (skip) autodoc generation (I don't need it, in fact)? Thanks! Regards, /Al

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Re: More conference items: book and mailing list
by Johan Sundstr�m (achtung xmas!) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

That sounds like a view based on the presumption that a cookbook's purpose is to teach you how to make a spoon out of a fork, and vice versa. I think a cookbook can be just as much about teching the basic workings of how to make the tools do the work for you, so people don't try to invent their own objects, mappings et cetera through arrays, strings and whatnot. Or to write C code, or Basic, in Pike. Of course it would not be a book for you, or for me, but it would still be useful to those new to the Pike mindset, as much as the other (more ambitious) book being discussed. A recipe that basically only points a newbie to how the MIME module, or Locale.Charset.(en|de)coder modules are employed to do Really Powerful Stuff, is very much better than a recipe that shows a Perl hacker how to do something similar a tenth as easily and with ten times more bugs, by hand. If eighty percent of the book was covered by the refdocs already, but in a less terse and requiring-a-working-knowledge of Pike basics (as we prefer to keep the refdocs to the point) manner, I'd still call it a very useful book indeed. / Johan Sundström (achtung xmas!) Previous text: >2003-12-22 15:42: >Subject: Re: More conference items: book and mailing list >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >I'll restate that cookbooks in general is a bad idea. If something is so >complicated to do that you need a recipie, you either should introduce a >language construct or make a module. > > / Martin Nilsson (saturator) >

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Re: More conference items: book and mailing list
by Martin Nilsson (saturator) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

I'll restate that cookbooks in general is a bad idea. If something is so complicated to do that you need a recipie, you either should introduce a language construct or make a module. / Martin Nilsson (saturator) Previous text: >2003-12-22 13:37: >Subject: Re: More conference items: book and mailing list >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> A book is a great idea, two would be even better. Let me explain ... >> It would be nice if the first book is a guide to pike and a programmers >> cookbook, the second book should be for advanced topics [...] > >Well, we could indeed be working on two books. :-) I, too, think a >cookbook style Pike book would be good. As a matter of fact, we have >already started a tiny bit on that project; it's in a stray repository >at the pike site in /pike/data/cvsroot/projects/cookbook/ -- borrowing >ideas from the "cookbook" series, and Python cookbook in particular. > >Uwe Assmann also liked the idea about Pike books (and especially so >the cookbook style one), so we officially have all the backing we want >and need from IDA. :-) > > / Johan Sundström (achtung xmas!) >

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Re: More conference items: book and mailing list
by Johan Sundstr�m (achtung xmas!) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

> A book is a great idea, two would be even better. Let me explain ... > It would be nice if the first book is a guide to pike and a programmers > cookbook, the second book should be for advanced topics [...] Well, we could indeed be working on two books. :-) I, too, think a cookbook style Pike book would be good. As a matter of fact, we have already started a tiny bit on that project; it's in a stray repository at the pike site in /pike/data/cvsroot/projects/cookbook/ -- borrowing ideas from the "cookbook" series, and Python cookbook in particular. Uwe Assmann also liked the idea about Pike books (and especially so the cookbook style one), so we officially have all the backing we want and need from IDA. :-) / Johan Sundström (achtung xmas!) Previous text: >2003-12-22 09:42: >Subject: Re: More conference items: book and mailing list >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >A book is a great idea, two would be even better. Let me explain ... >It would be nice if the first book is a guide to pike and a programmers >cookbook, the second book should be for advanced topics such as garbage >collectors, runtime/compile time types etc. We do not want to put people >off pike by making appear too complex and intellectual. The cookbook >aspect of the first book should explain how to use the standard modules, >the modref does not help here - if we had some place to upload some of >our code then we can all help with those modules we have experience of. > >Anyway just my thoughts >-- >Kevin Mulholland >IT & Manufacturing Systems Manager >Landis+Gyr Ltd >desk 00 44 1952 602014 >mobile 00 44 780882 5979 >-- > > > > / Brevbäraren >

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