<< (Leah:) Food and sex are two addictions that have something in common, that set them apart from addictions to things like cigarettes, drugs and gambling. They are natural functions that can not be quit 'cold turkey.' You can live without cigarettes, recreational drugs or gambling. If you stop eating, you die. If you stop having sex of any kind, you are not behaving in a natural fashion.<<

I don't think that "dying/not behaving naturally" is a valid parallel.

(Neil)

This is possibly the most ridiculous assertion I have ever seen on the

Lyst.

Thank you, Leah. I do like to haul my arse out of bed to be told I'm not natural. >>

I've got the opposite problem--it's when I leave mine there that I get told that.

(Leah)

There is no living creature on Earth for whom it is 'natural' to abstain

from

reproduction for the entirety of their life.

But isn't it common in pack animals that dominance expresses precisely which males will reproduce and which will not? There may be some awfully unhappy subordinate males, but I don't think they're "unnatural."

Anyway, "nature" = raw carob pods, "culture" = raspberry truffles.

-(Y)