I'm sorry that it's taken me so long to say something. I'm especially sorry because I very much enjoy Penny and she's not posted a single thing to the lyst since then. Maybe because she was hurt by the words. Not everyone complains in public when they've been hurt. Or maybe because she was hurt that no spoke up in her defense. I hope she's still here to read this.

Carol Mc

I was upset by the post Carol Mc quoted from Neil, but said nothing specific about it because I was upset by a lot of what was going on at about the same time, and because Neil's posts suggest he wouldn't care if I had said anything. He takes pride in being obstreporous sometimes. I didn't think Penny might interpret silence as a support for him, as I have frequently praised her. One of the main reasons I've been so upset about the list arguements lately is that people who I had been in the habit of respecting, such as Neil, said things to other people I found distressing. I'd rather put up with trolls than a things getting nasty between people I know. I also want to thank everyone for trying to calm things down-- it's been a lot better the last few days. As you can see, I'm willing to open my mouth again.