On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 16:01:59 -0600 Betty Ragan ragan@sdc.org writes:
Guy wrote:
Yeah - I agree absolutely. This is a bit fanciful (and apologies
in advance
to any Christians - no offence intended), but I see this as Avon's Gethsemane moment. His god is Logic and he thinks he's already
given more
than enough to show his devotion, and then he suddenly gets hit
with a
demand to sacrifice basically the only thing he's got left. But of
course
he's so far in by this time that there's no real prospect of his
doing
anything other than what he actually does.
I think Abraham and Isaac would be an even better analogy.
I'm more inclined to think of Macbeth, taking advice from people he _knows_ he shouldn't listen to and plunging on into self destruction because it means power and, ultimately, survival (or so he thought).
That's the Macbeth in the play. I'm a fan of the historical one (easier to defend than Richard III but far fewer takers).
But if we're going for Biblical analogies, I'll chose Saul for sheer, self-destructive cussedness.
And, if one of the Christians you were worrying about was me, I know I can be thin skinned, but I thought it was an appropriate metaphore.
Then again, I would have said it made Avon's logic out to be a false god in context, which would account for his Gethsemane going bust.
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Ellynne, replying to my comment:
And, if one of the Christians you were worrying about was me, I know I can be thin skinned, but I thought it was an appropriate metaphore.
No - don't worry - I had no one in particular in mind. I just remembered Belkov: "They're a primitive bunch, but they do take their religion rather seriously." :-)
Guy Kendall wrote:
Ellynne, replying to my comment:
And, if one of the Christians you were worrying about was me, I know I can be thin skinned, but I thought it was an appropriate metaphore.
No - don't worry - I had no one in particular in mind. I just remembered Belkov: "They're a primitive bunch, but they do take their religion rather seriously." :-)
Though the bulk of us have abandoned ritual murder. ;-)
Mistral
Ellynne, Guy and Mistral:
And, if one of the Christians you were worrying
about was me, I know I
can be thin skinned, but I thought it was an
appropriate metaphore.
No - don't worry - I had no one in particular in
mind. I just remembered
Belkov: "They're a primitive bunch, but they do
take their religion rather
seriously." :-)
Though the bulk of us have abandoned ritual murder. ;-)
Ah, the influence of liberal theology :-)
<Suddenly realises>
"The bulk", what do you mean "the bulk ?" We don't have this in the C of E, the sacristan would complain about the extra laundry work.
Perhaps it's something people learn on Cygnus Alpha courses (drum roll, awkward silence, tumbleweeds blowing across the room as a bell tolls sombrely in the distance).
Stephen.
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