New subject: Use of image

20 Mar 2001

      Dana said:
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Shane said:
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So what you're saying is you're catering to a market, providing a
service?
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Cars need petrol, houses need insulation, people need pornography, is
that
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it?<
No--cars don't run without petrol, houses are more pleasant for their
human residents if they are insulated, and some people enjoy consuming
and producing pornography.
But that wasn't what Leah said-- she was speaking in terms of needs.
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OK, now this is a genuine and serious question. If slash fiction is
meant
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to
 satisfy the unrequited procreative urges of female fans with regard to
male
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actors, why does it revolve around male/male couplings?<<
The term "procreative" was used a) ironically and b) euphemistically in
light of the sensibilities of some Lyst members
No it wasn't. Go back and read Leah's posts.
--a better euphemism
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would probably have been "fantasies (erotic and otherwise) of female
fans.
True.
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I'm surprised myself by the prevalence of slash within B7 erotica--
not that I expect less m/m slash, just more hetsmut and f/f stories.
Me too-- this is exactly the question I've been asking.
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This is why we have limits,
In RL we have limits because things that are enjoyable fantasies have
various downsides
Again, exactly the point I wanted to make to Leah. Thank you, Dana!
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censor boards,
We have censor boards because some people want to see a lot of pornography
to prevent others from seeing any
lol!
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warnings
We have warnings because large corporations do not like being sued
No one likes being sued, large corporation or private individual.
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and sex-addiction
support
 groups--
Because some people have genuine problems and others buy in to a
therapeutic culture
Again, well said.
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because unrequited lust can turn dangerous,
Well, yes, but in only about .000000001% of all cases. You don't think
Brad Pitt makes a living as an ACTOR, do you?
Well, I certainly don't think he makes it as a porn star :). But I was
taking issue with Leah's statement that obsession turning dangerous isn't a
concern.
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The position I'm coming from
Ooer.
as a reader and writer of sexually
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explicit stories (and of slash stories with little or no explicit sex),
and which I am giving her as a personal credo rather than a list of
what other people do or should believe:
Fair enough.
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Sexual fantasies--including fantasies about things that are impossible

or inadvisable in RL--are an enjoyable and beneficial source of pleasure
OK, but I'd like to know what you mean by "inadvisable."
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Sometimes it's fun to use someone else's fantasies as a supplement or

trigger to your own
True.
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21st Century RL doesn't provide full equality--sexual, economic,

racial,
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or on the basis of orientation. If anything, I think the B7 world is
worse,
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but there is some interesting light to be shed by one on the other
a) true. b) I'm not sure about the B7 world being worse, but that's a
separate thread.
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I think that the way people express themselves sexually is quite

interesting and an index to character--whether they're fictional or
real.
Very true.
Shane
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