In a message dated 2/24/01 6:35:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, nydersdyner@yahoo.co.uk writes:
<< FYI, one of the things I greatly like about Calle's handling of the Lyst is his easygoing attitude to the airing of diverse views. >>
Well, yes. I agree with you completely. Which is why I took exception to the beginning of this entire conversation where people were being told that they didn't have the right to insert "humorous" or "trivial" comments into the middle of a serious thread. Which is also why your diversion of the real topic is rather strange.
I also pointed out (as did other posters) that those people who truly wanted to have a "private conversation in the corner" should not expect to be able to do so on a list several hundred strong... and that their only options therefore are to a) live with the fact that their threads are not sacrosanct and people will respond in the tone and manner in which they wish or b) have a PRIVATE conversation rather than posting in front of the entire list or c) start their own list with rules that suit them better. Those are really the only options I can see. Because, frankly, even if some of us (like Betty has graciously done) agree that subject lines will be changed, etc., etc., a mailing list is in constant flux and the agreement will never stick. You're never going to get all the members of the list to comply *unless it is a rule of the list*. Why continue to upset yourself (and other members of the list) by making an issue of it? You have options. Pick one.
Annie
--- Ashton7@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/24/01 6:35:57 AM Eastern
You're
never going to get all the members of the list to comply *unless it is a rule of the list*. Why continue to upset yourself (and other members of the list) by making an issue of it? You have options. Pick one.
At the risk of boring people, I would like to restate my position before I sign off on this topic. I speak for myself only and not for Neil or anyone else.
I do not have a problem with humourous posts, humour or wit (I mean heck, I write "The Posthumous Memoirs of Secretary Rontane," which is hardly a documentary). I have also never stated that I wanted to chat quietly in the corner (which fact Annie has kindly pointed out. Thanks, Annie).
The original dispute was not about humour on the Lyst in general, or even serious threads turning humourous, but about interjections in a different tone. Which I think has now been rectified, as a) people are now being more careful about changing thread headings, and b) it is now known to be a touchy issue and so I think (or hope, anyway) that people on both "sides" will be more careful not to tread on each other's toes too heavily in the future.
I'd like to point out, as a point of clarification, that when I debate things, I tend to come at it in a very academic style, which involves taking up a position and defending that position until it becomes untenable. Which, I have been reminded offlist by someone, is fine for academic debates, but can be taken as overly argumentative in other contexts. <slaps wrist repeatedly>
I have found nothing in this discussion to upset me; In fact, I rather enjoy being able to hear other people's views and to put my own into print form. However, as tempers are obviously fraying, I'm going to make this post my last word, and go and watch a few episodes of "The Clangers" for a while...
Fiona
The Posthumous Memoirs of Secretary Rontane Available for public perusal at http://nyder.r67.net
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