I said...
I'm not quite sure where the idea that Gan got the limiter because he was a danger to woman came from.
the Jeeny said...
That would have been Terry Nation and Chris Boucher.
Forgive me. I didn't realise they actually had said as much. I was under the impression that it was just a theory you (and others) had.
Jenny said...
He also appears to kill someone with a spear in Cygnus Alpha.
Accepted. But I'm not sure what more that proves other than the limiter is not 100% reliable.
b) he goes for Cally while his limiter is on the fritz
And Jenna earlier on. He only attacks Blake when he tries to stop him.
All right.
And in all 18 episodes never gives her name, or refers to it again.
Using lack of evidence as evidence in itself is not usually a good idea. None of the others talk about their past with the Federation much either. To use the only other example we have of the crew's past love lives...how often does Avon speak about Anna other than in the episode we actually see her?
And it seems a little extreme that he kills one guard and for that he's
sent to >Cygnus Alpha with a limiter implant.
A life sentence for theft is a little heavy too but the Federation aren't exactly strong on prisoner rights from what we see of their justice system.
If Gan has been fitted with a limiter there is a reason for it.
Indeed. But the evidence doesn't point for certain at that reason being a violent hatred of women.
Jenny wrote...
A monk killed Kara who showed affection to Gan. That's where Gan got the story from.
Or the situation mirrored his past and he was so enraged by it happening again that *thats* why he was able to overide the limiter and kill the guy. Just pointing out possible alternate interpretations here.
No, but we are talking about Gan's cover story here. In TWB Blake states "I'm innocent, of what I was charged with anyway". Vila replies, "We have something in common then.We are all victims of a miscarriage of justice." "It's true!" Protests Blake, "Of course it is!" says Jenna. They don't believe him, because they know that many guilty people, even after conviction, will protest their innocence. They also know that many will
lie
about what they are convicted of. TWB was written and script-edited by the same two people who wrote and script-edited all of the first season.
Er, are you saying that since Jenna did not initially believe Blake was innocent that Gan must therefore be guilty? Sorry, I don;t quite grasp the point you're trying to make.
When he is strangling Cally it is a deliberate act. He is smiling and he's enjoying it. What kind of limiter malfunction would do that? If the limiter is meant to prevent a particular behaviour then presumably that's the behaviour we'll see when it malfunctions.
If it had stopped working completley then that would be true. We know it is still doing *something*, Avon says as much. It is still activel but sending scrambled signals. The brain is remarkably complex and I wouldn't presume to speculate on what messing with it might do to persons personality and behaviour.
This is not the illogical actions of a man who has been driven to violence by pain caused by a malfunctioning limiter. These are deliberate actions. They have a pattern.
Yes they are calculated, violent, whatever. We assume from the fact he has the limiter he is unstable and violent. I personally would not think killing someone in revenge is the act of an amiable friendly chap. I'm not actually arguing that point. What I'm disagreeing with is the idea that his violence is specifically targeted at women.
Yes it could have, but it wasn't. The writer has set it up so that it is Cally and Jenna who are attacked.
I hesitate to say it, loving the show as I do...but it is pretty typical for the girlies to get into trouble and need rescuing...even in B7. I don't read much into it.
The word "my" is the possessive.
I talk about 'my partner' too. Doesn't mean I think I own him or am going to top him or anyone else if I lose him. Again I think you're reading too much into a simple phrase.
No, the entire theory is bullet proof.
Doesn't automatically make it right. There is just as much evidence for a number of views.
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