Helen wrote:
I was more blunt than this on the Deliverance thread, and people didn't accuse me of attacking Mistral personally!
No because when you said you "didn't understand how intelligent women could like Deliverance", it came across as insulting every female who had already stated why they liked it... either you didn't understand their posts, and as you are rather articulate, it seems unlikely; or you meant you considered no female who disagreed with you to be intelligent.
Hey, I've just done what Carol suggested we should, and gone back through Wendy's posts on Deliverance in the archive. Here's what she actually says (2001-02-02 21:39:58 ):
"What I meant to say was, it is ridiculous not to say that Deliverance doesn't, for whatever reason, contain sexist elements and themes. And that it strikes me as disturbing that a story which does contain such themes continually makes the top-ten lists of intelligent, aware, female fans."
This is after at least *five days* of arguing her corner (and a pretty gruelling five days at that), and arguing it totally alone, and to be honest, reading them back in the cold light of day, they were very articulate (if somewhat aggressive) arguments. Now a lot of people have since said that they do see sexist themes in Deliverance. Wouldn't you say Wendy's got a good point that it's disturbing that not many otherwise-intelligent people admitted to seeing it then?
(BTW, why only 'intelligent females'? Do you consider tolerence of sexism to be a sign of stupidity in females but normal in males?)
To which I refer you to the paragraph I quoted. Which doesn't say that only females are intelligent, it says it's surprising that *female* fans would like something so sexist. I would also refer you to Carol's post on "twisting [Wendy's] words" and add that, if you can't fight fair, you shouldn't fight at all.
Shane
"Is it that Blake has a talent as a natural leader, or that you have a talent for being led?" --Avon