At 10:58 25-3-01 -0700, Ellynne G. wrote:
For the record, I don't have any uncontrollable fears of homosexuality. It exists and it happens. I also, last time I checked, strongly believe in the civil rights of all human beings and I'm not suggesting anyone be treated as less than a person for any reason. I'm also willing to fight for a person's right to be treated with respect regardless.
Yes, I also happen to disapprove of sex outside of marriage. I'm a conservatively religious person. The fact can be assumed in the absense of evidence to the contrary.
I guess that "innocent" until proven guilty isn't a big thing where you're from, then. Also, if the sex outside of marriage is the only problem (it isn't a problem for me, but this is for the sake of the discussion), I don't see how this is any worse for gay than for straight people. But I'm sure you'll be relieved to learn that very soon gay people will be able to get married in Holland, solving at least that issue.
I also would say that desires are one thing but we have choices how to act on them. I would also say that the choices we make are important in this life. They determine our happiness, if nothing else.
Agreed, but what does this have to do with the issue at hand? Or are you implying that everyone should make only those choices that you or your religion approve of? Such as not acting on gay feelings?
I'm also 1) not really expecting anyone to agree with me and 2) agreeing with you that this is probably not the place to discuss it. Actually, it seems to be one of those issues that _can't_ be discussed these days.
Sure it can be. It's just that calling the other side immoral doesn't sound like an opening to a discussion. It sounds more like an insult.
Sending this to the spin list, too, since that's where such a discussion, if anyone cares to actually start one, belongs.
Jacqueline