In message Pine.OSF.3.96.1010510173221.20082H-100000@bscomp, Iain Coleman ijc@bas.ac.uk writes
Outwith the ranks of B7 fandom, I've observed that women seem much less inclined to drool over Avon. Stephen Grief, now, that's another story. (And the less said about She Who Must Be Obeyed's remarks about the old and fat Gareth Thomas the better...)
Stephen Greif... <pauses to wipe chin>.
You do realise that you are risking the wrath of the Gorillas? He may be old and fat, but we still like him. He's cuddly. You're a bloke, you should be grateful that one day when you're old, and possibly fat (unlikely though that seems, you stick insect you), there is a possibility that women may still fancy you.