Blakes7 January 2002

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Re: [B7L] Re: Female Characters
by Sally M 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Leia writes: "Lets see who else have we got. Kasabi?" <veg> Piri. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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space is big ...
by Sally M 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

And another one. How much of the galaxy do you think is covered by the Federation at its height? Is there anything in the series to negate my impression, built on the fact that - space is big, as I think we were informed in another series), but the feeling of the series is that this part of it is also relatively small and enclosed; there are millions of stars but *not* all that many colonised worlds, few enough so that it appears every one has a name not repeated anywhere else (… [View More]

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Fwd: Re: [B7L] Re: Female Characters.
by Sally M 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Leia wrote: <It is a pity the potential of the female characters in B7 was never fully realised. They were all set up with an interesting background and should have been strong, independant, interesting characters.> (I take it you're *not* including Her Supremeness in this - even if I find her only adequate, the general consensus seems to disagree with me) All four of them had a lot of promise built in at the start ... Jenna was *never* IMO as good again as she was in those first … [View More]scenes in The Way Back, but she was at her uneven best in S1 (I'd like to credit Terry Nation for this, since he wrote it all, but then he wrote Redemption, where she trails around playing Doctor's assistant to *both* Blake and Avon :-)). What I'd've liked to see was more of the light barbs she throws around in Cygnus Alpha, more of the skepticism, and way more of the underlying dislike between her and Avon (actually, given the way he tempted her in CA, 'twould have been fun to see her, disillusioned in trial, trying to tempt *him* away when it's too late). I have to say, though, much as I like Jenna, part of it is the acting, she just *clunks* sometimes. Cally - don't care for the character, but think Jan Chappell is the best actress on it (better even than Jacqueline Pearce - in their respective moments of 'psychic' pain in Children of Auron, Cally's is by far the subtler and better done). Given what she could do with just one simple line (in Hostage - "anything that moves") they should have kept Cally's fanatic, overwrought edges and push her further along the road to obsession than Blake, almost having her leading him in, but instead went for alien high-mindedness. In S3, it probably *should* have been Cally going planetside rather than Vila, in Pressure Point, Killer, Hostage, Countdown ... (of course, the problem there was that by then, Vila was writer and audience favourite, and always was much more fun to watch :-) Few people would have liked to see his or Avon's part cut for the women. That's show biz ...) (OTOH, I'm working on this theory that part of the reason Cally lost her way was that - like the rest - she'd been leaning on Blake's strength, almost 'feeding' off his drive and commitment and warmth. But after Voice - certainly as they headed towards the end at Star One - Blake is becoming drained and exhausted, nearing complete collapse from the accumulating stress and trauma, and doesn't have it to give anymore.) Dayna had the most detailed background of them all, but in a way, from the very start, the least room to develop, being given one point of reference - her vendetta against Servalan. I think it's relevant, in a way, that Dayna's *second* episode has her already playing Doctor's assistant. Soolin - it goes the other way. Soolin wasn't wimped out, but started as a blank page and gradually got better, but not better enough when compared with the older, richer characters, Avon and Vila. It was a fair way into the last series before she was more than a shadow. She's good with flip lines, but there's very little substance until half-way through. As I said in my Warlord post a little while ago, the colder, calculating aspects of her character were showing a lot of promise at the end, but that shooting party got in the way before she could really get going ... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [View Less]

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Re: Other SF
by Mel Saxby 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

> Tell the truth, I've nearly given up watching new SF stuff, although I do > occasionally dip into Farscape. Mainly because it's so hard keeping up when > you work alternating shifts. Doesn't a VCR help? This isn't a patronising question - having never worked shifts, I don't have a concept of the impact it might have. Surprisingly, VCRs aren't much help, at least for any long-running series. The only ones I've managed to keep up with that way are Babylon 5 and Space: Above and … [View More]

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Re: [B7L] Re: Other SF
by Steve Kilbane 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

> Tell the truth, I've nearly given up watching new SF stuff, although I do > occasionally dip into Farscape. Mainly because it's so hard keeping up when > you work alternating shifts. Doesn't a VCR help? This isn't a patronising question - having never worked shifts, I don't have a concept of the impact it might have. > So many good shows only get as far as > Sky, which I can't really afford. Hmm. I dunno. As Louise and I often comment, there are some jewels to be found in … [View More]

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Re: [B7L] Re: fanfics
by Sally M 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Before I begin, let me say that Anna's writing I have seen is very very good, and if it took no effort I am lime, olive and emerald green with envy :-) The following comments are only about the way I find the whole process, which is somewhere in between all the views I've read so far. I wrote primarily for me, true. My B7 focus is character intereaction, and fairly narrowly based - Blake and Avon first (there aren't, of course, *nearly* enough A-B stories in the world) with Vila next … [View More]

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Re: Other SF
by Mel Saxby 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Tell the truth, I've nearly given up watching new SF stuff, although I do occasionally dip into Farscape. Mainly because it's so hard keeping up when you work alternating shifts. I'm glad I first saw B7 as a teenager when it first came out. If it was showing today, I'd probably have missed it. And at least it was shown on mainstream TV. So many good shows only get as far as Sky, which I can't really afford. Mel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (… [View More]

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Re: Female Characters.
by seven＠gaudaprime.com 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

Leia > It is a pity the potential of the female characters in B7 was never > fully realised. They were all set up with an interesting background > and should have been strong, independent, interesting characters. > They have their moments but for the most part are sadly underused. David The fan-fiction related to them, however, can only rise. Would you like to pick one or two of the B7 women? Pick anything or anyone from high mythical females to lowly recalcitrant teenagers and I … [View More]

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RE: [B7L] Female Characters (was Blake's 7 and Stargate)
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

"Leia Fee" <leiafee(a)totalise.co.uk> wrote: >It is a pity the potential of the female characters in B7 was never fully >realised. They were all set up with an interesting background and should >have been strong, independant, interesting characters. They have their >moments but for the most part are sadly underused. > >Leia But they are more 'interesting'/developed than characters in some of the contemporary series (eg Dallas) Jacqui -- … [View More]

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Re: Other SF (Lexx)
by Steve Rogerson 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

I love Lexx, but admit the quality is sometimes variable. The four one-and-a-half-hour episodes that made up season one were excellent. Season two is a mix of good and bad episodes, including one absolutely brilliant episode. I found season three dragged a bit, stretching the one story line over too many episodes, but I liked it better when I watched it again and knew I was on a marathon rather than an episodic adventure. Season four so far has been very good. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://… [View More]

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