Blakes7 July 2001

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Re: [B7L] Veron in the midfield
by Pherber＠aol.com 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

In a message dated 6/29/01 8:14:50 AM Mountain Daylight Time, hflysator(a)jarriere.demon.co.uk writes: > keep doing double takes when I open the newspapers' sports pages and > find that my football club is trying to sign Veron. I know how you feel -- the Colorado Avalanche (hockey team) have a big-money defenseman named Rob Blake... Nina

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Re: [B7L] tarrant on tv
by Mac4781＠aol.com 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

Alison wrote: > Stephen Pacey is on telly right now, playing the defence forensics expert in > the Dando trial reconstruction. Sounds very posh Thanks for the info, Alison. If anyone caught it on tape and would be willing to provide me with a copy (for proper reimbursement, of course), please let me know. Carol Mc

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Re: [B7L] Robert Holmes ... a few wandering musings
by Mac4781＠aol.com 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

A belated note of appreciation for Una's eloquent, articulate, and loving comments on "Death-Watch": > Ah, must spring to the defence of one of my favourites. The reason that I > think > it's a great ensemble piece is that it uses all the characters *in character* > to drive the plot along. Yes. <sigh> And not only does it use all the characters in character, but the character dynamics are insightful and deftly handled. While the dramatic impact of "Blake" makes it my favorite episode, DW is the better written script; it's Boucher at his best. Carol Mc

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tarrant on tv
by Alison Page 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

Stephen Pacey is on telly right now, playing the defence forensics expert in the Dando trial reconstruction. Sounds very posh Alison

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Re: [B7L] Reeve (was Robert Holmes...a few wandering musings)
by Sally Manton 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

Stephen wrote: <What was the business with Servalan coming over all moralistic about the fact that Reeve was a torturer, given the number of people who spent time reassuring her interrogators?> Oh but that's different, Stephen, it was in *her* personal best interests :-) She does have an oddly selective moralistic streak, does Servalan. And given her reaction to Krantor's Freedom City, one wonders if [a] she knew exactly *who* ran Space City, [b] she - errr - 'inherited' Space City along with the presidency and [c] she closed it down with a high-minded sniff about sewers ... Did her new found cover involve a CV that ran: 252-254 N.C. Head of Amnesty International 254- present Security Commissioner in charge of the Pacification Programme. Hobbies and Interests: Birdwatching, Haute Couture, Galactic Domination...oops, no sorry...Gardening. Stephen. (Careers advice available for a small fee). ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Robert Holmes ... a few wandering musings
by Sally Manton 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

Mistral wrote: Although it does have that nice little sting of Avon insisting Vila play Speed Chess rather than give up their winnings - it ain't betrayal like Orbit, but it's an interesting moment of expediency (I do think Avon truly believed that Vila was not in as much danger as all that, and that Orac was up to the challenge, but it still ain't nice). Holmes may have loved putting them together, but wasn't ever under any illusion about what they'd do for each other. <Though there's one line in Gambit that doesn't ring true - 'You dummy.' It's too flat and generic for me to take seriously> Oh but I think the tone of voice redeems it :-) Me: <(other episodes have good A-V in them - Volcano, Deliverance, City and Bounty, for starters - but aren't *built* around it).> and Mistral: <Heh. Well, would *you* say that a good A-B episode isn't important? ;-)> Hey, you're talking to someone who's built a whole argument around the two Blake references in Moloch and Rumours, which makes *them* A-B by my admittedly partisan standards ... yes, but there is A-B (Redemption, Pressure Point, Star One) and there is A-B (Duel, Deliverance, Weapon). Absolutely, but what I meant was it's a smaller *part* of the episode as a whole, <Without those two episodes, I'd be less inclined to interpret the relationship as mutual liking, and more as just being stuck on the same ship.> Up to Bounty, I think it was more the latter; the relationship does take a while to kick in. (BTW, Deliverance is good A-V as well IMO, Vila's gleeful teasing the whole way through is wonderful). My absolute favourite A-V *moment* is in fact in 'Blake' - that oddly gentle "you think you've found Blake" - which is IMO a single moment beautifully poised on everything that's gone before, including Orbit. But then 'Blake' does that on a range of levels ... <Shame on you, neglecting the really important one.> <grin> Can't think who you mean ... but yes, if he could survive being on Servalan's staff, he could survive a measley intergalactic war. <Well, the brown vinyl is a bit dodgy, but I love the blue leather. Oddly enough, I like it far better now I know it's blue than I did when I thought it was black. Black leather and studs is just so ... pedestrian.> The Terminal black-leather-n-studs is nice; the set Dorian buys for him is awful, but I explain it in my own mind as a sort of sartorial mixture of mourning and almost-armour, which fits his 4th series mindset. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Robert Holmes ... a few wandering musings
by Marian de Haan 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

Judith wrote: >Didn't care for Reeve, but then he was meant to be a slimeball (and I always see him with mental shadings of another part played by the same actor - he was in Morgan's Boy - also playing a slimeball)< I agree Reeve was a detestable character but I consider him well written as a slimeball. I was sorry to see him being killed off so early in the episode because he had the potential for making life very difficult for Servalan. Marian

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Chucking episodes (was: Robert Holmes ... a few wandering musings)
by Marian de Haan 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

Sally: >I like to believe that Power was Vila's bad dream.It's a good thing I don't believe in chucking episodes, I guess.< Nor do I. Canon is canon and we're stuck with the good as well as the bad. And isn't it fun that we all think differently about which episodes are bad? Marian

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Re: [B7L] Robert Holmes ... a few wandering musings
by Sally Manton 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

Mistral wrote: Agreed, but would you also include the other two? Killer, Gambit and Orbit are central IMO to defining the relationship between Avon and Vila, bit the good and the not-at-all-good (other episodes have good A-V in them - Volcano, Deliverance, City and Bounty, for starters - but aren't *built* around it). And maybe used some of those earlier guests in them (if they could bring back Bercol and Rontane, they could bring back Krantor and Toise, impoverished and itinerant after the post-War near-collapse of the Federation destroyed Freedom City's whole clientele :-)) <Seriously. Why do I watch Killer more than Shadow, when I *know* Shadow is the better ep, and love it, too? Unless it's the A-V in Killer, and the rotten Cally hallucination sequences in Shadow.> Could be it. I *do* watch Shadow - lots - but then it's an A-B episode in its way, so it comes into my main area of interest (which is why my tapes of Time Squad, The Web, Breakdown, Redemption, Pressure Point, Hostage, Countdown, Voice from the Past, Star One, Terminal and Blake are getting plenty of use whether they are as good as Shadow or definitely *not* :-). Also, I'm a sucker for Our Heroes Behaving Appallingly, which is one reason why I also love Horizon and Assassin. Then again <veg> could it be the costumes? You have to admit, they all look *gorgeous* in Shadow, but that has nothing to do with why I consider it so superior. Nothing at all. (Now the costumes in Killer ...) Now that's a good game - I do recall someone saying they tended to bar Dawn of the Gods from canon, you want to chuck Deathwatch and I like to believe that Power was Vila's bad dream. Anyone else want to nominate 'it didn't really happen' eps? Only rule is either [a] it doesn't affect the main thrust of the series plotline or [b] you can explain away where it does (for instance, in Power we're told that the hangar to Scorpio is locked and booby-trapped; in my fanon, it wasn't the latter and Soolin was perfectly capable of opening it while Vila was still dreaming :-). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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decompression
by Alison Page 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

I've seen a few posts on this list over the years asking about the effects of decompression (e.g. 'putting someone out the airlock'). Anyway there was an interesting demonstration on TV last night during which Tarrant-looky-likey Jeremy Clarkson was put into a decompression chamber. This simulated decompression in a high-flying aircraft, not a space-ship, however I think at very high altitudes the atmosphere is quite close to 'vacuum', only a fraction of sea-level pressure. In this instance the amusing Clarkson was accompanied by a man in a breathing-suit, which was lucky, because he almost immediately became so disoriented that he wasn't able to do one of those block puzzles you give to babies to play with. When they said 'Jeremy, it's time to put the breathing mask on' he just smiled goofily and carried on playing with the toy. The other chap had to reach over and put the oxygen mask against his face. Almost immediately he went pink, and said something like 'What was I thinking of?' But what of the physical effects? Well, they made him breathe out during the 3-second decompression process, and they said if he didn't then his lungs would inflate out of control, which I guess could be a bit yucky. But having done that he didn't seem in any danger of exploding bloodily. He did break wind quite a lot. Well, you have to equalise pressure somehow. Alison ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************

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Blakes7 July 2001