Blakes7 June 2001

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Re: [B7L] It's My Noble Nature (was Heros & heroines)
by Marian de Haan 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

(From my pile of "Messages to be replied to when I find the time"): Susan Beth wrote: >I don't see that attitude in Avon. He was consciously breaking the rules, and accepts that his punishment was deserved -- though probably more for his mistakes in relying on the wrong people and whatever he did/didn't do that got him caught, I don't mean he feels guilty over the attempted theft itself. He doesn't feel angry or betrayed by the system/humanity/whatever, just annoyed that he failed to played the game well enough to win.< My feelings exactly, and much better expressed than I could ever have done! Overall, Avon seems to be a good loser. We never see him sulk. Even at the end of "Gold", he can laugh about being bested by Servalan, instead of trying to put the blame on someone else. Marian

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Re: [B7L] Avon & Nebrox
by Marian de Haan 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

Sally wrote: >I'm reminded of the notion of Avon's Aged Aunts again :-) though one finds it hard to think that any of them, being Avons, would be frail and helpless - more like terrifying old battleaxes.< I haven't heard of that notion before. Is it something like Bertie Wooster's aunts? Sounds great fun. Marian

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Re: [B7L] Gambit
by Ellynne G. 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:40:54 -0000 "Sally Manton" <smanton(a)hotmail.com> writes: > > And I though the Servalan doll was a stunningly good likeness. Suddenly imagining the Federation pushing Servalan dolls after she became president. Also imagining various crew member buying them up to stick pins into, use for target practice, etc. No, wait, since Servalan probably got a cut of the profits, they probably had Vila steal them. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: [B7L] Avon & Nebrox
by Ellynne G. 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:44:58 -0000 "Sally Manton" <smanton(a)hotmail.com> writes: > I'm reminded of the notion of Avon's Aged Aunts again :-) though one > finds > it hard to think that any of them, being Avons, would be frail and > helpless > - more like terrifying old battleaxes. Well, thinking of the aunt I gave him in one fanfic, she looks very good for her age and has the philosophy that, if you really must set people up and stab them in the back, you might as well enjoy it. Nebrox might be something of a relief in comparison. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Duel
by Sally Manton 19 Jun '01

19 Jun '01

Una wrote: <I'd always assumed that there would have been some sort of basic military service that everyone gets dragged through. Although I reckon Vila got out of it somehow.> If one can assume that actual service - as apart from glorifying-militarism-youth-groups a la the Hitler Youth - it didn't start until about age 14 , he was otherwise engaged being arrested (and quite possibly earlier as well :-)) I do agree; from his reaction to weapons (dropping the gun in Spacefall, that appalled look at the knife in Cygnus Alpha, *shutting his eyes* the first time he fires the neutron blasters, I just love that) I would guess his familiarity with them is limited <g> _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Top Trumps
by Sally Manton 19 Jun '01

19 Jun '01

Una wrote re Avon: <Snogability ... 6/10 (??!!!???)> Had to be a man making the judgement (and I would have been interested in his score for Her Supremeness :-). <Fashion sense ... 5/10 (snort)> which is rather sad <veg> when one believes that he was the best dresser among the men - I'd give him a 7 at least, even taking into account the Matador and Lobster jackets (the polka dots and patches of Sarcophagus/Moloch isn't great either). Hey, I'd give him a 7 just for Shadow, Voice and Terminal (he borrowed the shirt in Aftermath, doesn't count :-)) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Gambit
by Judith Proctor 19 Jun '01

19 Jun '01

Inspired by having just watched Gambit, and by a very large pile of Lego, our local group decided to emulate Emma Peel's Wobblevision and recreate the episode in Lego. It can now be found on the web. All the passion, the glamour, the acting skills, the big-budget sets! The thrills, the spills, and lots of bricks... See the result at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - there's a link from the top page. See Richard's Liberator, (which is actually pretty good), Nic's chess set, Daniel's teleport bay, Chenie's bar and the cast of thousands! (We apologise to Jarriere's fans - we had to use the monkey from the pirate ship...) Judith PS. The next meet will be on 21 July and the annual shoot-out at Winspit quarry (near Swanage) will be on 1st September. All welcome, details available from me on request. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Re: [B7L] Re: Duel
by Natasa Tucev 19 Jun '01

19 Jun '01

Jackie wrote: >Seriously, I don't see Travis as the sort to fraternize with the >non-military. There would be no opportunity for their paths to even >intersect outside of Blake's dissident activities bringing them >together. Pre-loathing, they don't share a shred of commonality. For a while, I toyed with the idea that Blake did spend some time pre-series working for the military. I gave this up, because I think there's no way he'd be able to stand the discipline, but where did he acquire his considerable military skills? Where did he learn to be such an excellent strategist, fight space-battles (Duel and Hostage), improvise weapons and quarter the area looking for the enemy (Duel), build a fire (Time Squad)...? N.

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tv to go
by Alison Page 19 Jun '01

19 Jun '01

I just saw a comedy sketch on 'TV to go' (BBC1) which featured B7. I thought it was quite a good sketch, and that B7 was used in a pretty intelligent way. Four friends are sitting in a pub, reminiscing about the seventies and you think it is just a simple piss-take of people my age ('cola flavoured spangles were the best' etc.) But then one of the friends just takes it too far, going on and on about music, clothes, the school disco 'Dancing to Hot Chocolate'. the others look embarrassed. 'It was me and Susie, me and Susie all the way.' Then the mood darkens 'But she married you, didn't she Charles, and now she's dead' Oops. you realise why they are letting him go on and on about the seventies, without interrupting him. In the next bit of the sketch they are discussing blakes 7, and everyone is joining in enthusiastically. 'Blake' 'And Vila' 'Gan, he was that big strong man' 'And Avon, what was that all about?' 'There was some kind of ambiguous, good/baddy thing going on.' 'And that whole love/hate relationship with Servalan.' 'Blakes 7 was great wasn't it?' So the writer remembers B7 well, and he's using it to dramatise the tensions in the group. Are they being so enthusiastic because they like the show? Or are they pandering to their friend because of his grief? And how appropriate B7 is to that kind of use. And then at the end, the sad seventies man starts talking about Rubik's cubes, and all his friends get up, and leave him sitting alone in the pub, talking to himself. A real rib-tickler, then Alison

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Re: [B7L] Lost Causes
by J MacQueen 18 Jun '01

18 Jun '01

>From: "Sally Manton" <smanton(a)hotmail.com> >'How I Spent My Winter Holidays' ... with Og, Brian the Spider, little >lettuce people and a mummy with a fake eye. Barring the fact that some of the episodes referred to are ones I've seen more than once, it sounds like Sally and Una wish me to turn thirty in prestigious company. Thankyou, ladies! Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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