Blakes7 May 2001

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Re: [B7L] Trust
by Ellynne G. 14 Jun '01

14 Jun '01

> Jacqui wrote... > >>It might interesting to see which characters in B7 refere to trust > - > Blake (in 'that' quote) >>Neebrox and who else? > Although Cally did say a man who trusts can never be wrong, only mistaken, that doesn't mean that she might not have tried to avoid making certain big mistakes. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: [B7L] Sentencing
by Tigerm1019＠aol.com 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

In a message dated 05/15/2001 5:23:01 PM Central Daylight Time, Sha_Ka_Ree(a)compuserve.com writes: > Possible. Havant tells Blake he's disturbed when he's messing with his > mind. If they defined criminal beahviour as evidence for mental illness > they probably could 'treat' it without the persons consent or without a > trial. We have compulsory treatment orders for mental illness even here > and now. In many totalitarian regimes (like the Soviet Union), dissidence was and is considered mental illness, and treated as such, often very heavily, with the rationale that if someone isn't happy with the way things are, there must be something wrong with them. It's possible, even likely, that the Federation would do the same. Tiger M

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Re: [B7L] Re: sadness
by J MacQueen 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

If Calle's busy, fair enough. <smile> We can't have him being distracted for a moment and allowing the computers to have a go at him, a la the Liberator during Redemption, can we? Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: a word of warning
by JEB31538＠cs.com 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

Annie Wortham wrote: > Over the last few weeks, I have suddenly begun receiving massive amounts of > pornographic emails, not just on my main account, but on every single > account where I have website space. These accounts are never used for email > and I have NEVER, in years on the internet, received spam at any of those > addresses. I also have received a pornographic message in my guest book at > my main website for the first time ever. > > Yesterday, while attempting to find the source of this Internet Vandalism, I > discovered a newsgroup post that called for an "attack" on my website. > > Please read the entire newsgroup thread at: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=fa268efd0c2bc972, > 8& > seekm=9d4emm%249k1%241%40slb7.atl.mindspring.net#p > > If you will click on the website link of the person posting the disturbing > messages, > I think many of you will be saddened and surprised to find a rather prolific > member of this Lyst as the perpetrator. I don't know what to make of this > behavior. I'm still coming to terms with it. Until it happened, I wouldn't > have expected a fan to do this to another fan. > Julia Jones wrote: > This format will make it easier to use: <http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=fa268efd0c2b c972,8&seekm=9d4emm%249k1%241%40slb7.atl.mindspring.net#p> I used Julia Jone's url. When you use it, be careful to delete the space that the computer puts in at the line break. I personally have no use for this Lysator person ever since she attacked me last year for telling people to buy ZENITH and support B7 fandom. She and some others (and I have no use for them either) accused me of using a guilt trip on people. While everyone is entitled to an opinion, I just decided then and there that Lysator really wasn't a list I was very interested in. And that was also reinforced recently when another bunch of posters made such unkind remarks to various people that people started unsubbing. I still miss Penny Dreadful who is a delightful talented fan whose feelings were very hurt. I only stay on the list to pick up the rare GT news bits, the general B7 news, and to read occasional posts by people who are friends or posters who normally say something of value or interest to me. I regularly delete 50-80% of Lysator without reading it. Sometimes I delete entire digests. I think recently I didn't read one digest for something like three weeks straight. I could tell another argument was brewing when somedays I had to delete four-five digests unread. There are many people on Lysator who in my opinion should simply be ignored. The inane arguments which last for weeks could not exist if the people on the list who have some common sense, brains, and courtesy would just ignore the posters who seem to thrive on conflict and whose seeming only purpose is to stir up trouble. And some of the posters are frankly so unbelievably rude and mean I frankly wish Calle would unsub them after they have made two or three rude or vicious remarks to other list members. That is one of things I really despise about this list--that such rude behaviour is tolerated. I think what is happening to Annie is totally uncalled for. It's one thing to be having an argument with a person on the list---it's quite uncalled for to carry that argument onto another list. And electronic vandalism of any sort should never be tolerated. You have my sympathy and support, Annie. I would hope that most of the Lysator is disguested by the attack and also by the people doing it and also the people who seem to support it or encourage it. And personally I find some of the current posters to be totally creepy. I do not understand why Lysator attracks some of the mean people it does. As a teacher in public school for 16 years, I am very aware of how one bad student can ruin a classroom of 30 students, most of whom are very nice. It is so sad to think that about five to perhaps ten people over the course of the last year have made Lysator a very unpleasant list to be on at times. Thank goodness, there is Freedom City. And if worse comes to worse on Lysator, I am just going to have to hope that the GT and B7 news I want to get also gets posted there because, at least, on that list these deliberate rude and personal attacks by some posters on other posters would not be tolerated. Anyway, Annie, keep your chin up. And thank you, also, for making us aware of what is happening. Joyce

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Re: Shields
by Hellen Paskaleva 01 Jun '01

01 Jun '01

Harriet: <...but are the shields anything like the "door" in City at the Edge of the World?> For the sake of consistency I would prefer to imagine that all shielding devises with similar functions are based on one single technology. Same way, as all today's cars, regardless the variations in shape, colour, etc., use same internal combustion engine. The logic is, that if given technology works efficiently, why bother changing it. Vila himself says that the door is a kind of force field: VILA: It's a forcefield. Set to refract light so that it appears solid. Well naturally it feels solid, all forcefields do. Looks solid, feels solid, so everybody treats it as solid. They bash, blast, and burn it, and like all forcefields, whatever energy you push into it, it chucks right back at you. He eliminated it by tuning his opening devise to field's frequency, which is exactly the way to induce resonance waves, which can destroy things. Well, at lest *sounds* reasonable idea... Hellen == "Consistency is the last resort of the unimaginative." -- Oscar Wilde _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Shields
by Andrew Williams 31 May '01

31 May '01

Hellen wrote: >For the sake of consistency I would prefer to imagine that all shielding >devises with similar functions are based on one single technology. Same >way, as all today's cars, regardless the variations in shape, colour, etc., >use same internal combustion engine. The logic is, that if given technology >works efficiently, why bother changing it. I always assumed that force fields were different from force walls. In "City" Vila states that air can bleed through a force field, whereas the blister force wall mentioned by Slave in "Stardrive" would have to be airtight. Andrew.

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Re: [B7L] Jarriere and Animals
by Sally Manton 31 May '01

31 May '01

Dana wrote: <I'm convinced that one of the options on the DVD will be Jarriere popping up like Clippie (the Microsoft paper clip) to ask for elucidation of all plot holes.> Oh wow oh wow oh wow ... and what excuse could we have for some of the other guests? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [Frivolous] Re: [B7L] B7 movie
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 31 May '01

31 May '01

In a message dated 5/31/01 2:05:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mistral(a)centurytel.net writes: << Am I also the only one who thinks that one of the reasons B7 fandom is so interesting is because it doesn't have the mass appeal of Trek? (At least in the U.S.) I really _like_ being in a niche fandom. It's the 'make your own fun' mentality that appeals so much. >> It may have it's own, different appeal while it's a niche fandom, but I can attest that while B7 was showing all over the US on PBS stations in the '80's, when it became a fairly significant media fandom back then and had its own American conventions, it was one helluva lot of fun too. Nothing like going to Chicago once a year and meeting 500 like-minded friends. I know that's not on the same universal scale as TREK, but it was a good taste. Leah

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Re: Zine lists coming up
by Sarah Thompson 31 May '01

31 May '01

Tavia, very interesting data-crunching! Thank you for some hard statistics. I agree with what-- Joyce, I think?-- said: this should be posted somewhere, perhaps on Judith's site. Another quick note on websites, for any writers out there who had stories in now-out-of-print zines: there are now at least two web archives looking for gen B7 stories, Judith Proctor's Library (all kinds of stories) and the Hammer to Fall and Bang and Blame (PGP) archives on the B7 Writers' site (gen only; adult and slash stories are at Liberated). Judith's site also has a listing system for finding B7 stories of whatever kind you prefer, on various sites; so if you have stories archived on your own web page, please list them with Judith so other fans can find them easily. Also, if your golden oldie exists only in print form, it might be possible to scan it for web posting; e-mail me provately if you're interested. Sarah

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Web site update
by Minnie 31 May '01

31 May '01

Hi all I just wanted to let you all know there has been an Nova update at http://www.darksites.com/souls/horror/blakes7/index.html Some new stuff including many more pictures (still a few to come later, including Vila, the Liberator and Blake clones and next gen). But Im still open for suggestions and ideas. I have also put up some of my limericks and tried to put up a joint round robin (with Starkiller ) but that diverts to a page that isnt mine. This will be fixed asap. Starkiller has also helped me set up the page in a more user friendly style. This will improve with time. Big thanks to Starkiller. :) Feedback, feedback, feedback Min.xxx

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