Pike-devel September 2002

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Plan
by Martin Nilsson (Fake Build Master) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 09 Sep '02

09 Sep '02

A plan is better than no plan, so here is my suggestion: The Pike 7.3 CVS is forked into a new development version, 7.5, next saturday (14/9). At the same time the 7.3 tree is renamed to 7.4. All API/language design changes and the like must be completed before then. Only bug fixes and release related changes will be accepted after the CVS shuffle. Bugs: 3022 BMP fails on 64bit machines (was this a WONTFIX? If so the test should be rewritten) FreeBSD sometimes fails to build post_modules and to run popen. Some machines has problems running Crypto.sha correctly. MS Windows fails spectaculary with dynamic loading. Turn it off? Design issues: There must be a semicolon added after implicit lambdas. What's missing/wrong?

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Language Shootout Compressed Source Code Size
by Johan Sch�n (Firefruit) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 09 Sep '02

09 Sep '02

I found this page: http://zooko.com/shootout-compress.html An interesting fact from this page is that pike programs are more compact than their perl equivalents(!).

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Process.split_quoted_string
by Marcus Comstedt (ACROSS) (Hail Ilpalazzo!) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 09 Sep '02

09 Sep '02

Is there any particular reason why Process.split_quoted_string("") returns (1) Result: ({ /* 1 element */ "" }) ? Shouldn't it return the empty array?

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Mapping a variable in an object from C
by Marek Habersack (Grendel) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

How can I map a C variable in a C module between two objects? I.e. object1 (C): storage->somevar; object2 (C or Pike) anothervar -> object1.storage->somevar; map_variable doesn't seem to be the right solution, or is it?

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Mapping a variable in an object from C
by Marcus Comstedt (ACROSS) (Hail Ilpalazzo!) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

>Then you need to index it out, using object_index_no_free. Or rather, since you wanted to set it, use object_set_index. Both are declared in object.h.

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-x
by Marcus Comstedt (ACROSS) (Hail Ilpalazzo!) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

I have now implemented the flag -x in the master. pike -x foo will run the program which Tools.Standalone.foo resolvs to using the module system. rsif has been adapted to use this system, and I made a small "pv" as well. Now for `pike -x module'...

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empty_string
by David Hedbor (I live in interesting times) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Just recently an empty_string was added to Pike. This is a problem because PHP4 also has a global empty_string variable. I fixed this exact problem way back in modules/spider/spider.c. A quick grep shows that this problem exists in Parser.HTML and now globally (the two use a different empty string however). Suggestion: make it pike_empty_string or empty_pike_string or something that is unique. That way PHP won't break. I should note that this time the problem was more obvious as it broke compilation rather than being a run time error. If there are no complaints, I will make this change.

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Re: Pike dev import/export to/from LysKOM
by David Hedbor (I live in interesting times) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

> huh? where am i expecting the users to change? > getting cc'd messages exported is an implementation issue of the exporter > and has nothing to do with user behaviour. In the statement Martin's commented: > as i said elsewhere, if they are not interresting then cc is not needed > at all, if they are interresting enough to get cc'd then they should > get exported too. You said right there "if they are not interesting then cc is not needed at all". However "cc" in LysKOM is, as Martin pointed out, not used in the same way it's used in mail. It's not always used to add possibly interested recpients to a message but most often used to divert an off-topic discussion from one conference to another. Now, it is at times used to simply add a recipient that might possibly be interested as well. The only REAL difference between a normal recipient and a CC recipient is that comments to a message only gets sent to forums which has an actual recipient. CC recipients are ignored in that case. / David Hedbor (I live in interesting times) Previous text: >2002-09-05 16:20: >Subject: Re: Pike dev import/export to/from LysKOM >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 03:55:01PM +0200, Martin Nilsson (Fake Build Master) @ Pike (-) developers forum wrote: >> > as i said elsewhere, if they are not interresting then cc is not needed >> > at all, if they are interresting enough to get cc'd then they should >> > get exported too. >> The common practice in LysKOM is to CC the message just when a thread >> changes conference. I don't think you'll succeed in making all LysKOM >> users change their behavior so that it suits you. > >huh? where am i expecting the users to change? >getting cc'd messages exported is an implementation issue of the exporter >and has nothing to do with user behaviour. > >> LysKOM does not map fully to emails. >> Accept that or upgrade to a LysKOM client. > >i do accept that, there will be a gap, i am just trying to get this gap >to become smaller. > >> (and to prevent whining about unavailability of LysKOM clients for your >> platform, I want to stress that your platform is part of your choice). > >bah, the whole thing is about choice! >most of all i choose not to use multiple programs to do the same job. >for editing i only use vi, >for programming only pike >and to send and receive messages, only email. > >greetings, martin. > > > / Brevbäraren >

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[Pike-devel] argv[0]?
by Fredrik (Naranek) Hubinette (Real Build Master) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

POSIX sucks / Fredrik (Naranek) Hubinette (Real Build Master) Previous text: >2002-09-03 17:41: >Subject: argv[0]? >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >What I understood from the previous discussion, some people don't consider >POSIX calls portable (mainly because Win32 doesn't support the calls). If >my understanding is correct, then I must say that I don't like the >approach. POSIX is much more of a standard than Win32 will ever be >(i.e. how can something used by one company and one family of products be a >standard?) > > / Marek Habersack (Grendel) >

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Bug?
by Marcus Comstedt (ACROSS) (Hail Ilpalazzo!) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

master.pike: [...] ({"nowarnings",tmp->NO_ARG,({"-W", "--woff", "--no-warnings"})}), [...] case "no-warnings": [...] Borde det inte stå "nowarnings" i casen också?

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