it is you who need to make the effort to use communication tools everybody else uses, instead of forcing everybody to do it your way.
It could be noted that the primary pike communications channel, where this discussion is taking place, is bridged to the not all unfamiliar tool email, but it might spoil the bad mood a bit.
Doing something constructive here is dead easy. Say you would like to use IRC for discussing pike, having a place to hang and chat with pike people. The way of achieving that is to decide on a network, make that #pike channel and announce the location.
If that gives little results, you could try doing the equivalent of what Hedda & c:o did for pike-dev and gateway roxenchat (where some pike people hang regularly) to IRC. Some social issues *can* be solved with technology. The climate needs human attention, though.
/ Johan Sundström (folkskådare)
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2003-04-25 01:35: Subject: Re: Sad.....
unfortunately, kom is just as out of the world as some claim the pike developers are. nobody outside sweden uses kom. there are no sensible clients, except one for emacs. (thanks, but no thanks)
it is you who need to make the effort to use communication tools everybody else uses, instead of forcing everybody to do it your way. the latter is fine when people are joining in flocks anyways and there is trouble to keep them back, but it hurts when it is hard enough to get volunteers as it stands.
for #pike probably the best place is the caudium irc network. if you need it, maybe irc.pike-community.org can be set up as a hostname to point to one of the networks servers. that could then be advertized on the pike site.
greetings, martin.
/ Brevbäraren