On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 02:35:43AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote:
those who do the work are always right,
This is NOT true. Those who do may do it _wrong_ (and often do) :)
to much freetom gets you perl, thanks but no thanks.
Look at Perl... It is used almost everywhere (at least in Unix world). Look at Pike... It is used almost nowhere (comparing to Perl).
Why? May be because of the freedom. May be because of it's license. I don't know exactly, but the fact is - it is more widely used.
contributions. it's just like owning stock. the more you own, the more your vote counts.
Who will decide about value of my shares? :) Or even better - where I can sell them? :)
there IS a good regexp module, it is waiting for someone to find the time to add it to the pike tree.
...and raise again this license and legal bullshit (the reason why PCRE was rejected once, if I remember correctly).
nils would not have received a diploma for updating openssl in pike.
Exactly. This is why Pike is developed - to receive diplomas, right? :)
have you even tried to get anything accepted?
You remember - I did. Long time ago. Not so long ago I tried again (again with PCRE) - it ended with legal problems. So... This thread shows that nothing will be changed regarding floating point (though current behavior is not logical at least - read my posts).
you are assuming based on things that happened in the past, which for a long time has been controlled by roxen.
Well... Now it is controlled by IDA. What is changed? Until there is a need in diplomas, and until most of the core team will be there, Pike will be developed as it convenient for IDA (or can you prove that I am wrong?) :)
many are not contributing because they believe that nothing has changed since then. because they are not contributing, some things are not
Pike is GPLed long time ago. _Nobody_ prevented _anybody_ from doing a fork and developing it outside of Roxen. So... It means that no one was really interested to do so. Conclusions?
things ARE NOT going to change UNTIL YOU start to contribute.
A lot of people tried to contribute. A lot. But there is still separate PExts repository on Caudium, but not on IDA (for example). So what?
Regards, /Al