Pike-devel February 2003

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F_NOTIFY
by Marcus Agehall (Tr�dl�s) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 09 Feb '03

09 Feb '03

What is the policy on implementing system-specific functions within Stdio.File? I've implemented support for the notify-functions within the Linux kernel which fits very well into the Stdio.File module but I'm not sure they belong there since they are Linux-specific.

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config.log @ pikefarm
by Martin Stjernholm, Roxen IS ＠ Pike developers forum 08 Feb '03

08 Feb '03

I'd like to see config.log in the pikefarm builds. Could someone please add it to the list of returned files? (I'm currently interested in the one in the core directory, but those in the modules might be interesting another time.)

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Re: gcc/icc
by Mirar ＠ Pike developers forum 08 Feb '03

08 Feb '03

The correct solution is probably to load Gmp.bignum when it's needed. I tried to make such a solution, but I couldn't see how without adding overhead to the bignum creation callbacks.

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API version tagging
by Marek Habersack 07 Feb '03

07 Feb '03

I was just wondering about one thing - whether it would be a good idea to tag the APIs in the documentation with the Pike version number where they appeared? That would enormously help in writing "portable" (as in cross-pike) scripts. marek

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werror in C
by Marcus Agehall (Tr�dl�s) ＠ Pike (-) developers forum 07 Feb '03

07 Feb '03

I need to print debug information from C-code and I want to be able to use the same syntax as in Pikes werror/write functions. How can I call werror/write from C?

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Xor
by Peta, jo det �r jag ＠ Pike developers forum 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

({1,2,3,4,1,2}) ^ ({1,2}) gives ({3,4,1,2}) I was expecting ({3,4}), I guess there is a good reason behind it but I can't figure it out :)

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synchronized
by Martin Stjernholm, Roxen IS ＠ Pike developers forum 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

I've never understood benefit of hiding mutexes like that Java construct does. It even does so in three different ways depending on how it's used. Is the code somehow made more clear because the mutexes disappear? I prefer to see them, so I can tell easily which regions are synchronized with each other. That also makes it easier to search on the mutex variable to find those regions. There's one benefit with a block construct like that: It makes the region where the lock is held more clear. (The pike way of relying on refcount garbing of the lock has lead to many bugs, e.g. with the tail recursion optimization. I don't rely on refcounting for locks anymore; I always zero them explicitly afterwards.) So in my view a good synchronized construct would always require a mutex argument. E.g: Thread.Mutex my_mutex = Thread.Mutex(); synchronized(my_mutex) void my_first_function() {...} void my_second_function() { ... synchronized(my_mutex) { ... } } The second case above is solvable with implicit lambda, but I'd rather avoid implementing it that way since it "destroys" the syntax so it can't be upgraded to a better implementation later on (see the blurb about implicit lambdas in the CHANGES file). As a transitionary measure, we could perhaps have something like this instead that works through implicit lambdas: my_mutex->synchronize() { ... }; / Martin Stjernholm, Roxen IS Previous text: >2003-02-04 19:14: >Subject: synchronized >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >One thing that's nice in Java is the 'synchronized keyword. It would >be nice to have that functionality in Pike since it's easier than >manually using mutex locks (nicer code): > > >synchronized void do_something() { ... } > >and > >mapping foo; >void do_something() { > synchronized(foo) { > work on foo > } >} > >and > >void do_something() { > ... > synchronized { > locked region > } > ... >} > >would be nice. The first one creates an implicit mutex lock for the >entire method, the second one creates a lock bound to a specific >variable (i.e you can have multiple methods "locking" the same >variable) and the third method works just like the first, except for a >specific region rather than the entire method. > >Another possibility is to have synchronized classes: > >synchronized class { > ... >} > >and variable instanses: > >synchronized mapping foo = ([]); > >But the first three versions are IMHO more interesting. > >How hard would this be to implement in pike? I'm guessing "quite >hard", but... :) > > / David Hedbor >

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index() in a testsuite
by Peta, jo det �r jag ＠ Pike developers forum 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Does anyone know why it seems impossible to use the word index() in a testsuite.in file. It will just remove the entire word and generate a warning /export/spare/pike/home/peta/Pike/7.5/src/post_modules/Test/testsuite.in:258: /pike/sw/bin/gm4: Warning: Too few arguments to built-in `index' And is there any way to avoid it?

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INT_TYPE = INT64
by Mirar ＠ Pike developers forum 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hm, I filled in too few '*'. Note that Ackermann gets faster with 12-byte svalues (can anyone explain that?).

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The Gmp, Math modules and the files module in pike 7.5
by Marek Habersack 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hey all, The Gmp/ and _math/ directories in src/modules/ both contain .cmod files which requires that the system where pike is compiled (even from exported sources) will require an existing pike before even tpike is linked. I thought that moving them to post_modules/ would be a temporary solution, but then files/stat.o linking fails since it cannot find f_max/f_min which are defined in the _math/math.c file. The other solution is to precompile those files when exporting the sources, but alas - I have no idea how to do that :) thanks, marek

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